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My Salary Progression in Tech

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Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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> It's always been my intention to retire early, > I'm interested in making huge money and retiring early, > I don't begrudge people with their crazy salaries but I do get frustrated that I can't find success myself. I am shocked and surprised at the same time (knowing that I only selected quotes of a few commentators). Shocked to see the same mindset as many managing consultants and investment bankers I have met and…

> Find something you love doing and do it for the 'work' itself People keep repeating that advice, but finding something you love doing just for the work might be an endless chase, not unlike the chase after success and money. Some of us actually feel that it is easier to chase money than it is to find work you really love.

Even worse. Doing something you love for work means you end up hating it for a lot of people. Then you spend your entire life drifting and finding nothing else you love.

I do something I hate enough to walk in with a sword and fight it every day.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me it's about security and freedom, not "keeping up with the Joneses". I earn a good salary for the UK, even if it might look small compared to the US salaries. But I've been very careful not to inflate my lifestyle too much. I don't have an expensive car. I don't go on expensive holidays. I save approximately 40% of my take home pay. I feel I need to do this because I won't necessarily be employable long past 50…

> But I've been very careful not to inflate my lifestyle too much. I don't have an expensive car. I don't go on expensive holidays. That's what I noticed during my undergraduate years in the UK after growing up in continental Europe: "lifestyle" for most people in the UK from the young age is associated with spending money on material things and holidays, not pursuing life-long hobbies and interests. In much of conti…

> a second home in the countryside, where he spends every summer weekend

So, material things and holidays? All that says is that those things are cheaper for people outside of the UK.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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> It's always been my intention to retire early, > I'm interested in making huge money and retiring early, > I don't begrudge people with their crazy salaries but I do get frustrated that I can't find success myself. I am shocked and surprised at the same time (knowing that I only selected quotes of a few commentators). Shocked to see the same mindset as many managing consultants and investment bankers I have met and…

> Find something you love doing and do it for the 'work' itself People keep repeating that advice, but finding something you love doing just for the work might be an endless chase, not unlike the chase after success and money. Some of us actually feel that it is easier to chase money than it is to find work you really love.

Yes.

I am so tired of people parroting "Do what you love."

Real life isn't a Disney movie. Doing what I love, I would be lucky to make $10k a year.

You know what else I love beside that? Making enough money to eat.

You know what I REALLY like, knowing that I'm making enough money now to GUARANTEE my dreams will come true.

Not scaping pennies together as a starting artist, crossing my fingers, and hoping that one day I get my break. No, I did that for 10 years. You know what I noticed? No one ever gets a break.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But I've been very careful not to inflate my lifestyle too much. I don't have an expensive car. I don't go on expensive holidays. That's what I noticed during my undergraduate years in the UK after growing up in continental Europe: "lifestyle" for most people in the UK from the young age is associated with spending money on material things and holidays, not pursuing life-long hobbies and interests. In much of conti…

> a second home in the countryside, where he spends every summer weekend So, material things and holidays? All that says is that those things are cheaper for people outside of the UK.

People without big salaries often have second homes because they built them themselves as a hobby over a long period of time on a plot of land they could afford.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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These are unbelievably high salaries. In Germany such salaries are possible only at management positions (not talking about IB) of large companies only. I visited US 3 years back and I found everything better - clothing cheaper, food more delicious, people friendlier and houses bigger. Yes you don't have social security and have poverty issues but I would still be in US than in Europe considering the amount of money…

Just curious, why don't you move ?

Well moving, as much as i would like to do, is not that easy..I live with my wife who is also working. She is not comfortable in working in English. We have bought a house in south of Germany which has to be paid off..uncertainty in jobs and hire & fire culture is pretty scary..also, we live close to our parents and extended family, where we have lots of fun over the weekends..

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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My progression: 23 - 45K (University sysadmin, east coast) 26 - 60k (University research systems programmer, east coast) 31 - 65k (SWE, small IHV, remote) 32-42 -- incremental raises up to $145K (senior SWE, same company) 43 - 425k (Senior SWE, Google, Mountain View CA) 44 - 390k (Senior SWE, Google, Mountain View CA) 45 - 350k (Senior SWE, Netflix, Remote) 46 - 400k (Senior SWE, Netflix, Remote) 47 - 525k (Senior SW…

Wow! Curious what kind of hours you've had to work for that sort of increase.

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Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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My progression: 23 - 45K (University sysadmin, east coast) 26 - 60k (University research systems programmer, east coast) 31 - 65k (SWE, small IHV, remote) 32-42 -- incremental raises up to $145K (senior SWE, same company) 43 - 425k (Senior SWE, Google, Mountain View CA) 44 - 390k (Senior SWE, Google, Mountain View CA) 45 - 350k (Senior SWE, Netflix, Remote) 46 - 400k (Senior SWE, Netflix, Remote) 47 - 525k (Senior SW…

How did you get a remote job at Netflix? Were you hired as remote or did you get an offer and then negotiate remote? I will eventually need to move away from the Bay Area to take care of family but the company I work for (FB) has almost no remote options and no offices near my family.

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Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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What kind of genius does one have to be to earn $800k? Or do you possess rare knowledge and connections in your industry?

probably TC, including stocks accumulated that got more value over time.

AFAIK Netflix doesn't give stocks.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Some context: PhD in EE, but spend most of my time coding. 2011: $100k, industry R&D lab, VA 2012: $150k, “”, “” 2013: $150k, “”, “” 2014: $0, self-employed and didn’t turn a profit 2015: $100k, academic researcher, Midwest 2016: $160k, industry R&D, SV 2017: $165k, “”, “” 2018: $170k, “”, “” Since 2016, I’ve been working in SV for a company that pays engineers all cash, a modest bonus, and no stock. I like the work…

> I couldn’t provide a family with the same lifestyle my parents gave me (a house, two cars, safe neighborhood, good school district, mother could stop working for several years to raise me), and they managed without college educations.

It depends where you live. That's probably possible on £30k in the UK including various benefits, certainly on £50k, as long as you live somewhere sensible.

What are the non-housing costs you need?

In 2008 a couple with 2 kids spent, per week:

  Food and drink £103.53
  Clothing and footwear £29.26
  Household goods and services £27.11
  Personal goods and services (inc health) £27.39
  Transport £35.02
  Social and cultural activities £90.08 
£320 a week, or £1400 a month. That's £1800 a month after inflation [0]

Housing costs say £650 a month for a mortgage [1]

£2.5k a month, or a net of £30k, that's a single income of £42k a year [2]

You'll also get £1800 in child benfit.

If you have larger outgoings, say 30% more to £2400 a month plus housing, you're looking at a net of £36k, or gross of £52k [3]

(Marginal tax £50k-£60k is 69% though so there's not much point earning more than that, until you're past 60k and it drops back to 51%)

[0] https://www.in2013dollars.com/uk/inflation/2008?amount=1400 [1] https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-70111... [2] https://listentotaxman.com/42000?plan=2 [3] https://listentotaxman.com/52000?plan=2

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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That figure must be for outside London, no? Since there aren't too many UK salaries here I'll add mine for London, all in GBP: - 2006-2009 45-60k Employee, US investment bank, Analyst - 2010-2012 300/day Freelance, full stack web dev - 2013-2017 105k Employee, tech lead at a startup - 2018-2019 700/day Contractor, Senior Python Developer

It's a UK wide average. Specific industries like banking will pay a markup. Also expect a 15-20% higher pay in London due to increased living costs.

Banking pays poorly compared to tech roles at private equity and hedge funds. Even losing out to Silicon Roundabout and even sleepy Whitehall at the moment, though it is all fairly volatile.

I suppose trying to work at any of the smaller FAANG offices in London might be the best you can do in the UK?

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