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My Salary Progression in Tech

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Canadian Software developer

Salaries in USD, before taxes, including lack of bonus.

- 2010: Dropout

- 2011: $0

- 2012: $33,000

- 2013: $36,000

- 2014: $39,000

- 2015: $42,000

- 2016: $45,000

- 2017: $55,000

- 2018: $0 (startup)

- 2019: $0 (startup)

What the hell am I doing with my life? I consider myself pretty damn good too. The "startup" isn't going anywhere.

I think I'll go to university. Maybe in 4 years I'll be able to earn $150,000...

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

#152

This is such an odd survey, especially when framed as "White people especially need to talk about their salaries because marginalized folks in the same fields often have no idea they're being swindled by employers." How knowledge of me making $X helps anyone? If you think that you're underpaid, the only thing that will make difference is a competing offer. Reducing experience, amount of work, kind of work and value t…

> Would putting a number and my race on that give you any insight into that? I believe your analysis is unfairly reductionist and doesn't really capture the spirit of the tweet. If I was asking you for advice about salary, I'd definitely be interested in everything you mentioned, what your skills are, how you got to your current position etc. The issue is that marginalized groups often find it hard to advocate for th…

Software development is a huge professional field, with people doing all sorts of things, in all kinds of companies. A bunch of numbers pulled off of the international forum (HN) with such variability in job descriptions and levels, is just that - a bunch of numbers.

I want to be helpful, but simply throwing the number around is not it.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

#153

Some random points of advice after 30 years in tech... First, decide whether you are more interested in pushing forward on technology or on earning more. Yes, you probably want both, but you should decide which matters more. Also, note that the answer will likely change if your personal situation changes, in particular, if you start a family. These points are primarily for those who put earning more above pushing tec…

The only thing I've ever seen work to get significantly more money is changing companies. Companies used to give somewhat decent raises 3-8% but outside of that, it doesn't seem to matter what one does. I have a great boss and have been promised raises multiple times. Instead, our CEO cut our vacation in half. The only reason I haven't gone somewhere else is because I work remotely and can put in the most minimal effort. I regret the first few years putting in a lot of effort, getting RSI, solving many problems ... but for what? For nothing. Actually, less than nothing. Due to inflation and vacation taken away, I make less. So I work less. Then people wonder why something like over 80% of workers in the US are disengaged. This is why. Most companies are too cheap to provide proper compensation, vacation, and benefits. Serves them right.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

#154

Canadian Software developer Salaries in USD, before taxes, including lack of bonus. - 2010: Dropout - 2011: $0 - 2012: $33,000 - 2013: $36,000 - 2014: $39,000 - 2015: $42,000 - 2016: $45,000 - 2017: $55,000 - 2018: $0 (startup) - 2019: $0 (startup) What the hell am I doing with my life? I consider myself pretty damn good too. The "startup" isn't going anywhere. I think I'll go to university. Maybe in 4 years I'll be…

Without knowing your skills, there's a good chance you've just been working for the wrong companies. There are lots of companies in Canada that pay absolute garbage to software engineers. And if you don't have the skills that higher-paying companies look for (mainly coding+algorithms+data structures in interviews), you can get that without going to college. Also look into working remotely for US companies.

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#155
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I am Asian but was born and raised in Australia. I have a Bachelor of Science and I work as a web developer, e.g. Spring, ASP.NET, React, WordPress, Drupal, etc. 2013 - 23yo - $45K - First job - Magento developer building eCommerce websites for clients. 2014 - 24yo - $54K 2015 - 25yo - $70K - Second job - Magento / Shopify / WordPress developer, building eCommerce websites for clients. 2016 - 26yo - $75K 2017 - 27yo…

Web development and other easy domains like iOS / Android are quickly going the way of other craft jobs of the past: Blue collar.

If you want to make above average salaries you're going to have to specialize. Find something that is both challenging (to reduce barrier to entry) and niche (to demand a higher salary). In other words - specialize. Staying as a generic web/ios/android dev is only going to guarantee that your salary becomes more and more diluted by the avalanche of developers entering the field. The barrier to entry is just too low.

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#156
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I am Asian but was born and raised in Australia. I have a Bachelor of Science and I work as a web developer, e.g. Spring, ASP.NET, React, WordPress, Drupal, etc. 2013 - 23yo - $45K - First job - Magento developer building eCommerce websites for clients. 2014 - 24yo - $54K 2015 - 25yo - $70K - Second job - Magento / Shopify / WordPress developer, building eCommerce websites for clients. 2016 - 26yo - $75K 2017 - 27yo…

Sounds sort of inline with me (Melbourne):

2014/2015 - 23 - $50K - $70K | Fraud Analyst using C#/Python/SQL

2016/2017 - 25 - $90K | Teradata/SQL Developer

2018 - 26 - $70K | SQL Developer and Coldfusion/Java

I switched companies in 2018 to be a little closer to home which resulted in a substantial paycut.

I feel your struggle with savings, buying a house in Melbourne is definitely not easy.

I couldn't care less about salary if I could work remote.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

#158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whites?

The article starts out with a fairly standard condemnation of white people for daring to keep our salary information to ourselves, and/or for daring to believe that we make the money we make fairly (you know, by delivering value to our employers).

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Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

#159
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Some context: PhD in EE, but spend most of my time coding. 2011: $100k, industry R&D lab, VA 2012: $150k, “”, “” 2013: $150k, “”, “” 2014: $0, self-employed and didn’t turn a profit 2015: $100k, academic researcher, Midwest 2016: $160k, industry R&D, SV 2017: $165k, “”, “” 2018: $170k, “”, “” Since 2016, I’ve been working in SV for a company that pays engineers all cash, a modest bonus, and no stock. I like the work…

Honestly, time to leave SV if you want to provide for a family. I'm in Atlanta. 10 years experience, 135k base, 150k total comp (401k and bonus). You can easily provide what you parents provides you here for 100k salary, which can be easily had. No one will judge you if you don't have large scale systems experience.

As a potentially helpful data point, I've occasionally been approached for senior technical roles in Atlanta, at large non-tech companies, where they've opened with $600-700k total comp. While I've never seriously pursued a job in Atlanta, that market apparently has at least some willingness to pay well for high-end technical talent that I would not have expected.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

#160

Canadian Software developer Salaries in USD, before taxes, including lack of bonus. - 2010: Dropout - 2011: $0 - 2012: $33,000 - 2013: $36,000 - 2014: $39,000 - 2015: $42,000 - 2016: $45,000 - 2017: $55,000 - 2018: $0 (startup) - 2019: $0 (startup) What the hell am I doing with my life? I consider myself pretty damn good too. The "startup" isn't going anywhere. I think I'll go to university. Maybe in 4 years I'll be…

Without knowing your skills, there's a good chance you've just been working for the wrong companies. There are lots of companies in Canada that pay absolute garbage to software engineers. And if you don't have the skills that higher-paying companies look for (mainly coding+algorithms+data structures in interviews), you can get that without going to college. Also look into working remotely for US companies.

The company I worked for was a software shop. Most people there were developers.

I don't really have algorithms and data structure skills. I almost never have to do these things in real life. I have done mostly front-end stuff (web and mobile). Should I go all-in on LeetCode? Will that guarantee a good paying job?

It seems like 4 more years without income to get a bachelor's degree would be worth it considering the crazy compensations people are sharing here. I would earn more in 2 years there than I did in my entire career here.

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