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Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Post by falsedan » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 12:57 AM UTC

stats111 wrote: post #76

These salaries sound astronomical compared to earning potential in UK companies. As an Architect, average salaries are around £64,000. Does anyone know how like for like roles pay in the UK for US companies? I can't see Amazon paying £200k for a software developer?

Not in salary, no, but total comp would be in that ballpark

1998 - 2006 Uni CSO work AUD$20k - $50k

2007 - 2009 £24k in London

2010 - 2014 £20 - £30k not in London

2014 - 2016 USD$135k + $30k stock (averaged)

2017 - 2018 £65k + $50k stock

2019 £58k

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Post by ergocoder » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 12:58 AM UTC

I never understand why we look at salary only.

My experience in tech companies in Bay Area. The stock is a huge part of the income, and, as we move up the ladder, the income is skewed toward stock heavily.

Then, we misleadingly report only salary like this director of Facebook makes $300K a year. No, they probably make like 10 millions a year with stock.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Post by jbarberu » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 12:59 AM UTC

snrji wrote: post #9

As a developer based in Europe looking at these numbers is quite depressing.

One trip home from the ER and you'll be the one laughing.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Post by taurath » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:00 AM UTC

tvphan wrote: post #45

I am Asian but was born and raised in Australia. I have a Bachelor of Science and I work as a web developer, e.g. Spring, ASP.NET, React, WordPress, Drupal, etc. 2013 - 23yo - $45K - First job - Magento developer building eCommerce websites for clients. 2014 - 24yo - $54K 2015 - 25yo - $70K - Second job - Magento / Shopify / WordPress developer, building eCommerce websites for clients. 2016 - 26yo - $75K 2017 - 27yo…

Where do you live?

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Post by mercutio2 » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:01 AM UTC

opportune wrote: post #63

DVassallo wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got a big bump in 2016 because I got a competing offer from Oracle, and Amazon matched it. 2017 and 2018 growth was from stock appreciation. If the stock hadn’t increased so much, the last 2 years would have been at around the 2016 level. AFAIK, people with ~10 years experience commonly get offers at around my 2016 level.

This is less a direct question and more of a discussion: I always thought it was considered a bad move to stick with your old company after receiving a competing offer and negotiating a higher wage at your old company. Conventional wisdom I've read is that your old company will slowly phase you out (thus missing out on promotions/raises). Have other people been so successful using an offer for a raise at your origina…

I have never retaliated against employees who gave me competing offers; some times I haven't been able to meet them and they left, but every time I did meet them, people stayed.

The people who stayed basically pulled forward a stock grant that was coming anyway, and increased this year's raise while decreasing it a fair bit for the next two years.

I've always been explicit that this is what's happening; the area under the income curve does end up larger, but not by a large amount. Of course the option value of having a grant vs. hoping for a grant is worth something, too.

DVassallo's $160k bump across one year's W2 is much larger than I've ever seen granted.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Post by thundergolfer » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:04 AM UTC

tvphan wrote: post #45

I am Asian but was born and raised in Australia. I have a Bachelor of Science and I work as a web developer, e.g. Spring, ASP.NET, React, WordPress, Drupal, etc. 2013 - 23yo - $45K - First job - Magento developer building eCommerce websites for clients. 2014 - 24yo - $54K 2015 - 25yo - $70K - Second job - Magento / Shopify / WordPress developer, building eCommerce websites for clients. 2016 - 26yo - $75K 2017 - 27yo…

Do you work in Australia as well? If so, Ignoring US even, you've got 5 years exp and you're making $85k AUD. That's not high for Australia. Is that including Super?

The larger tech companies in Melbourne and Sydney are giving $120k+ AUD total comp to grads.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Post by 1k » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:06 AM UTC

salaryanony1 wrote: post #54

Salary progression, no college degree. Cash only comp, no RSUs or anything like that. 20 - $65k (Office Rural NY, SE) 21 - $65k (Remote, 10 Person Startup, SE) 22 - $75k (Remote, 10 Person Startup, SE) 23 - $85k (Remote, 10 Person Startup, SE) 24 - $85k (Remote, 10 Person Startup, SE) 25 - $225k (Remote, SF Series B Startup, Lead SE) 26 - $225k (Remote, SF Series B Startup, Lead SE) 27 - $393k (Office, SF Series C/D…

That’s a really great company to pay SF rates while working remotely. Wish I could find one like that.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Post by LockNess0 » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:06 AM UTC

snrji wrote: post #9

As a developer based in Europe looking at these numbers is quite depressing.

You are paying for a huge welfare system that minimally benefits you. Without taxes, particularly payroll taxes, salaries would be similar in Western Europe to the US.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Post by souprock » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:07 AM UTC

sailfast wrote: post #13

To the author: were any of these cleared positions? Typically those command a premium and require some sacrifice as it applies to personal lifestyle choices. CACI often requires clearances for government clients, for example which is why you might see a drop when moving to Motley Fool (a commercial customer)

It's only a sacrifice if you'd actually want to do things that would raise concern.

On the other hand, it is a huge benefit if you'd rather not be surrounded by people with those kinds of concerns. It's nice to know that none of your coworkers are likely to steal your stuff, commit acts of violence upon you, spill fentanyl on your desk, embezzle the company's assets, offer you food items with unmentioned unconventional ingredients, or do anything other than be calm and level-headed.

Re: My Salary Progression in Tech

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Post by gortok » Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:07 AM UTC

ergocoder wrote: post #92

I never understand why we look at salary only. My experience in tech companies in Bay Area. The stock is a huge part of the income, and, as we move up the ladder, the income is skewed toward stock heavily. Then, we misleadingly report only salary like this director of Facebook makes $300K a year. No, they probably make like 10 millions a year with stock.

At least in the non SV tech companies, stock and bonuses don’t matter as much. In large companies that is different, of course; but most developers don’t work for large tech companies.