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Visible signs left after Google Fiber abandons Louisville

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Re: Visible signs left after Google Fiber abandons Louisville

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The failure of Google Fiber paints a very bleak picture of the future of internet infrastructure, or even all communication in this country. If Google cannot compete with the status quo, who can?

They tried to lay fiber in 2in trenches instead of typical 6in trenches. Then left when it didn't work. This isn't Goliath beating David. This is David throwing a rock, missing, and going home.

Re: Visible signs left after Google Fiber abandons Louisville

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"But Google Fiber got something out of its time here. It learned that nanotrenching—the cost-saving process of burying fiber optic cables just two inches underground—was a bust. “We currently do not have plans that call for 2 inch trenches, our primary specifications are focused on going deeper,” a Google Fiber spokesperson said in an email." It's so weird to just use cities as A/B tests and just disregard all the pe…

This already happens, Facebook sometimes tests features in specific countries e.g. New Zealand before wider rollout.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/technology/social-networking/103511194...

Re: Visible signs left after Google Fiber abandons Louisville

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I wish they provided some details on why the San Antonio and Nashville small trials didn’t scale to Louisville. If the issues were really so glaring and obvious it seems those efforts should have revealed them.

Edit: Looks like it didn’t actually work in those cities either. One wonders why the Louisville representatives missed this.

https://www.wsmv.com/news/repaving-streets-reveal-google-fib...

Re: Visible signs left after Google Fiber abandons Louisville

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post #10
post #6

The failure of Google Fiber paints a very bleak picture of the future of internet infrastructure, or even all communication in this country. If Google cannot compete with the status quo, who can?

Municipalities. They are world class experts in running broadband infrastructure if only evil ISPs let them.

Certainly. It took TWO YEARS of negotiating with Louisville before Google could start construction. If the municipalities do it themselves, there’s no small time politicians hands to grease, and the city can start construction immediately.

Re: Visible signs left after Google Fiber abandons Louisville

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post #6

The failure of Google Fiber paints a very bleak picture of the future of internet infrastructure, or even all communication in this country. If Google cannot compete with the status quo, who can?

That's not the lesson I'd learn here. This seems like Google has not yet learned how civil engineering works, which is a crucial component in internet infrastructure. It's unfortunate that Louisville is getting bit hard here.

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Re: Visible signs left after Google Fiber abandons Louisville

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post #6

The failure of Google Fiber paints a very bleak picture of the future of internet infrastructure, or even all communication in this country. If Google cannot compete with the status quo, who can?

They tried to lay fiber in 2in trenches instead of typical 6in trenches. Then left when it didn't work. This isn't Goliath beating David. This is David throwing a rock, missing, and going home.

I’m not sure David and Goliath is an apt metaphor when Google has a market cap 4x that of a broadband competitor Comcast.

Re: Visible signs left after Google Fiber abandons Louisville

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Grace Simrall the CTO over there is no n00b. They're a customer of ours and they're probably one of the most advanced cities we work with in terms of thinking about a "city stack". Google Fiber didn't abandon them, as far as I can tell they just have better plans that don't include being strong armed by google.

Re: Visible signs left after Google Fiber abandons Louisville

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post #6

The failure of Google Fiber paints a very bleak picture of the future of internet infrastructure, or even all communication in this country. If Google cannot compete with the status quo, who can?

Any chance some form of wireless can increase competition?

Re: Visible signs left after Google Fiber abandons Louisville

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post #18

Grace Simrall the CTO over there is no n00b. They're a customer of ours and they're probably one of the most advanced cities we work with in terms of thinking about a "city stack". Google Fiber didn't abandon them, as far as I can tell they just have better plans that don't include being strong armed by google.

>that don't include being strong armed by google.

What does that mean exactly?

I would think getting more competition would be welcome.

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