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Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation

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Re: Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation

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Post by ovi256 »

3xblah wrote: post #134

"It is not clear when the grand jury inquiry, overseen by prosecutors with the United States attorney's office for the Eastern District of New York, began or exactly what it is focusing on." What is NYT source for this story? A leak about the existence of an investigation? NYT journalist saw entries for grand jury subpoenas on PACER? How do they know the crime has to do with data deals? We must wait until complaint i…

>NYT source for this story

Most probably a US DA turning the screws on Facebook.

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Post by ahartmetz »

artificial wrote: post #125
resters wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It started after Facebook started getting blamed for landing Trump in the White House, and the pile-on has increased steadily since then. I’m no fan of FB’s extensive use of dark patterns, but the concerted attack on FB is meant as pressure so that Zuck agrees to let FB be used as a great firewall. Thank you, Zuck, for resisting the pressure if indeed you have. It will only increase as 2020 approaches.

Zygna and the Obama campaign weren’t nearly as vilified for harvesting user data on a massive scale. My suspicion is it’s more of an old vs new media fight.

It's probably in large part old vs new media, but Facebook's scumbaggery also has been going on the longest and it certainly showed the least restraint on outright lying to everyone.

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Post by 3xblah »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #149
3xblah wrote: post #134

"It is not clear when the grand jury inquiry, overseen by prosecutors with the United States attorney's office for the Eastern District of New York, began or exactly what it is focusing on." What is NYT source for this story? A leak about the existence of an investigation? NYT journalist saw entries for grand jury subpoenas on PACER? How do they know the crime has to do with data deals? We must wait until complaint i…

“according to two people who were familiar with the requests and who insisted on anonymity to discuss confidential legal matters.” Yes, there is a lot (more) we would like to know. But this is as good a time as ever to do a little experiment regarding the practice of anonymous sources: at some point, we are likely to learn more about this investigation. Then, you can check if the information we have now was correct.…

Thank you. Sadly, I missed that line.

It sounds like a leak from within Facebook or another tech company on the receiving end of one of these requests.

I always thought grand jury proceedings are supposed to be secret. Maybe this explains the anonymity. I guess it is not unusual for the fact of the existence of proceedings to leak and for media to speculate? Does this have potential to negatively affect the outcome?

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Post by cat199 »

subfay wrote: post #148

OT: While I like how FB is recently struggling, I have to say that their open source contributions and the teams working on those are by far the best in this industry. I hope they keep up doing this great work despite all their problems.

by far?

redhat, ibm, (linux, java, etc) for starters...

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Post by chris_engel »

coding123 wrote: post #146
thefucnjosh wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds like an absurdity, hiding your information from your bank?

Fake address is a good start... Like a PO box you own. Banks are the worst offenders in sharing data with... Data brokers.

Wait, isnt that illegal? Afaik you need to use correct information in a contract.

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Post by cat199 »

tabs_masterrace wrote: post #36
BucketSort wrote: post #9

Create a culture that is so fixated on wealth above all else and this is what happens. When everyone around you is judging you based on what you have and on the successes you've achieved, what motivation does one have to behave morally? God died and the dollar took its place. I know we will one day look back on this in complete confusion as to how we just watched things so clearly destructive destabilize the country.…

> destructive destabilize the country I don't think Facebook is destabilizing the country. In fact I don't think anything bad at all is happening. Like please explain to me your negative repercussions from Facebook sharing some of their data with Amazon. How did that undermine the country? People have gotten so hysterical about this topic, it's a madness, and that is what's destabilizing the country IMHO. Like OP is…

> I don't think Facebook is destabilizing the country.

umm.. massive and hugely polarizing public influence campaigns, if extant, aren't destabilizing?

> Like OP is calling to put some of the most brilliant minds in Silicon Valley in jail, which is ridiculous!

plenty of brilliant sociopaths out there.. brilliant != good.

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Post by mcv »

coding123 wrote: post #146
thefucnjosh wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds like an absurdity, hiding your information from your bank?

Fake address is a good start... Like a PO box you own. Banks are the worst offenders in sharing data with... Data brokers.

Get a better bank. And better banking regulation. I'm pretty sure Dutch (and probably European) banks aren't allowed to share their customers' data around like that, and I'm horrified that there are banks that do this.

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Post by pferde »

gotocake wrote: post #85
dvtrn wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you considered the possibility that you might not be the target demographic?

What’s the target demographic, and what demographic do I represent?

I'm pretty sure I'm at least partially it. I like to check the site out every now and then to get a point of view from the other side. HN, although having a lot of high quality discussions, can sometimes be a deafeningly loud echo chamber, and getting a different perspective helps to, well, put things into perspective.

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Post by tbarbugli »

8bitsrule wrote: post #140
sixtram wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's for one user then it's a breach of contract, if you do that for 10 million, that's a deliberate act of breaching all contracts and that is usually criminal. scale matters on these issues as well. and if you are doing it as a big utility company (e.g. banks) then you are free to go :)

The bank I've long used is constantly reminding me that it shares data with its 'affiliates'. So I give it very little data to share.

I hope that this does not include providing incorrect information. That would be very dumb and an easy way to lose control of your own money or worse!

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Post by tbarbugli »

coding123 wrote: post #146
thefucnjosh wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds like an absurdity, hiding your information from your bank?

Fake address is a good start... Like a PO box you own. Banks are the worst offenders in sharing data with... Data brokers.

Please refrain from suggesting idiotic and potentially illegal actions.
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