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Re: Ask HN: How can I learn how to paint?

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Thank you. Very sweet of you. It’s funny how you embark on something because you just want to try it and then it becomes something more. I hope my children embrace life early on. Maybe if that is all the wisdom I pass on to them it mean I will have been successful.

https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-bob-ross-every...

Thank you.

Re: Ask HN: How can I learn how to paint?

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Surely there has to be some aesthetic guidance along the way? Up until my senior year of college, every writing course I took, I would never get any _aesthetic_ feedback on my work. In grade school, my grammar and spelling would get corrected, but otherwise, what I wrote was what I wrote. It wasn't until I took a sitcom-writing course in college that a teacher gave me feedback that would make my writing better: "this…

I don't think writing and painting can be compared. Writing has some elements of art, but it also has a lot of rules that come from the language. Painting is much more free-form.

Depends on whether you are a realist or not.

Re: Ask HN: How can I learn how to paint?

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I worked in an adult care facility. One of the patients, a 90 year old man, was a painter. He made so many of the pieces that hung around the facility. We were friendly. He would talk to me. He would ask for me when he needed something. He told me I reminded him of his son. He asked me one day if I knew how to paint. I said no. He asked if I wanted to learn. I said yes. He said go buy these supplies and show up here…

Awesome story, thank you for sharing that.

Re: Ask HN: How can I learn how to paint?

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I was an artist for about ten years before becoming a computer guy, doing oil paintings from life. I would highly suggest you take a class. There's a lot of basic tech stuff you need to learn (how to mix paints, wash brushes, prepare canvases) and after that come the rudiments of drawing and color. I would compare it to learning to play an instrument. You want to pick up the violin and just express your emotions in m…

I'd have been very surprised not to see a comment from you in this thread. Could you link to some of your work?

Re: Ask HN: How can I learn how to paint?

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I was an artist for about ten years before becoming a computer guy, doing oil paintings from life. I would highly suggest you take a class. There's a lot of basic tech stuff you need to learn (how to mix paints, wash brushes, prepare canvases) and after that come the rudiments of drawing and color. I would compare it to learning to play an instrument. You want to pick up the violin and just express your emotions in m…

I'd have been very surprised not to see a comment from you in this thread. Could you link to some of your work?

Sure, here are four:

https://idlewords.com/images/ogold.jpg

https://idlewords.com/images/csink.jpg

https://idlewords.com/images/ralcove.jpg

https://idlewords.com/images/qbridge.jpg

Happy to give practical advice to anyone interested in this kind of painting.

Re: Ask HN: How can I learn how to paint?

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OK, in order to get some satisfaction out of it, and to continue for an extended period of time, possibly a lifetime, you'll need to invest in some education:

1. [Optional] take an Art appreciation class. The problem here is that they are all crap. Best to visit the closest Enciclopedic museum near you, and take as many of the free tours. Sure you'll have your preferences (you mentioned impressionists) but it's good to have a well rounded worldview

2. Buy the book "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" and do the self-paced course. Yes you need drawing skills in order to paint, not so much that painting is filling the drawings with color, but painting is drawing with paint. Also the book will teach you about negative space, proportion and more.

3. [Optional] after #2 above, take this free course https://drawabox.com/

4. Take a color theory class, preferably offline, or online, or read a couple of books. You'll be painting as well, which is good

5. Take a composition class, you can take it before or after #4 above. Preferably offline, or online, or read a couple of books. You'll be painting as well, which is good

6. Take a painting class, FINALLY! I know. Preferably offline, or online. Start with acrylic, then - if you want - go to oils. Of if you're into watercolors do watercolors. Best if you explore all three mediums. Blick Art is your friend for supplies.

Re: Ask HN: How can I learn how to paint?

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I worked in an adult care facility. One of the patients, a 90 year old man, was a painter. He made so many of the pieces that hung around the facility. We were friendly. He would talk to me. He would ask for me when he needed something. He told me I reminded him of his son. He asked me one day if I knew how to paint. I said no. He asked if I wanted to learn. I said yes. He said go buy these supplies and show up here…

Thanks for the great and touching story! Posts like these is why I love HN so much.

Re: Ask HN: How can I learn how to paint?

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Surely there has to be some aesthetic guidance along the way? Up until my senior year of college, every writing course I took, I would never get any _aesthetic_ feedback on my work. In grade school, my grammar and spelling would get corrected, but otherwise, what I wrote was what I wrote. It wasn't until I took a sitcom-writing course in college that a teacher gave me feedback that would make my writing better: "this…

>Surely there has to be some aesthetic guidance along the way? It's generally better to run the feedback through the same unconscious mental pathways you use to do the activity, rather than the verbal storytelling loop that can think thoughts like "I don't like how I did this". Use the parts of the brain that are good at painting, not the parts that are good about telling stories about your painting. I highly recomme…

Interesting, this idea has a well known countervailing theory -- "deliberate practice". The idea goes that practicing with the intent of (and focus on) improvement is more effective.

Perhaps "quantity over quality" is better for beginners because they're learning different kinds of things, or because their judgement itself isn't great, or perhaps it's just psychologically easier and less likely to lead to burnout.

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