I suppose we’ll someday hear that many of the companies who got people’s data have themselves been hacked, and that privacy is ended for many people. Surely Facebook must have some responsibility in such cases.
It can never be too late to benefit from proactive protection of one’s own data; isn’t that why people have been leaving Facebook?
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#63Wholesale surveillance of individuals by internet companies has to stop. And that includes Google.
It has always been the advertisers that are asking for the sort of tooling that can be taken advantage of during the election cycle. If you don’t think Russia should be able to manipulate the black voting populace then maybe it’s worth thinking about whether Unilever should be able to specifically target and market axe body spray in the same fashion. The tools only exist because advertisers are paying for them. Blaming Facebook is akin to being mad at a Martin Shkreli, both are playing within the rules of a bad system.
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#64Ok, so those partnerships were basically allowing Samsung and others to build Facebook app on their phones (i.e. allowing alternative client). Would this means that it will be criminal to allow companies to create alternative clients? That is really interesting development.
Eh, no. Dig deeper.
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#65There has been a tremendous amount of grassroots lobbying, fundraising, and private investigation in New York over the past two years with respect to Facebook. It’s a serious area I feel Silicon Valley has abdicated its moral obligation to stand up to its own. Hoping we can develop the evidence that comes out of this case into criminal charges for individual engineers and senior officers.
So let's incriminate engineers for building a faulty airplane too.
But engineers (real engineers, not self-styled unregulated ones) are already liable for their negligence and failures.
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#67Wholesale surveillance of individuals by internet companies has to stop. And that includes Google.
It has always been the advertisers that are asking for the sort of tooling that can be taken advantage of during the election cycle. If you don’t think Russia should be able to manipulate the black voting populace then maybe it’s worth thinking about whether Unilever should be able to specifically target and market axe body spray in the same fashion. The tools only exist because advertisers are paying for them. Blami…
Oh, poor FB and Google! They are playing by rules of a bad system!
Cmon, they are surveilling billions of people, selling, sharing, and using our data en mass. They monopolized internet, search and digital advertising. And I need to sympathetic to their situation?
Since when is Google is the owner of the Internet?
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't a grand jury meet after charges have been filed? Or is federal different than state in that respect?
IANAL, but grand juries do a lot of work before the charges are filled. For example, they check whether there's a probable cause for a search warrant.
Do you know how grand juries are selected? I find it weird that I've been selected for a trial jury a bunch of times but never a grand jury.
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#69At this point it is just an investigation. Nobody has been charged with anything. They have to find a law Facebook has broken first, and presumably establish enough evidence that they expect to succeed at a trial.
Do you have any idea what charges these may be? IFAIU, there're no laws which make it criminal to share information.
If even a single byte leaked, I guess the charges can include being accessory to identity fraud?
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#70FB Response: https://twitter.com/fbnewsroom/status/1105993038671691776?s=... > It's already been reported that there are ongoing federal investigations, incl. by the Dept of Justice. As we’ve said, we're cooperating w/ investigators and take those probes seriously. We've provided public testimony, answered questions, and pledged that we'll continue to do so
Does anyone ever say they're not cooperating with investigators?