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Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation

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Re: Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation

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Not directly. But employee burnout (and the nascent mass exodus of top talent we'll inevitably be hearing about shortly) may very well be.

Perhaps related: the frequency of FB Production Engineer recruiters reaching out to me has increased in the last couple months. I simply can't sell myself to an immoral organization where, I’m afraid, any concerns of mine would be drowned out, ignored, or silenced by the incumbent powers at Facebook that are dead set on their current path. There might be good engineers at Facebook trying desperately to change the cul…

> Perhaps related: the frequency of FB Production Engineer recruiters reaching out to me has increased in the last couple months.

As a further anecdote, I just had a FB recruiter contact me about an ML position three months after they rejected me and I told them never to contact me again.

Re: Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation

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At this point it is just an investigation. Nobody has been charged with anything. They have to find a law Facebook has broken first, and presumably establish enough evidence that they expect to succeed at a trial.

Doesn't a grand jury meet after charges have been filed? Or is federal different than state in that respect?

No. After charges are filed you go to court. Grand jury votes on the charges.

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5th of May last year in many places and in every other place in the world where you manage to convince a judge that it is. It's easier when there are explicit laws on the books.

Which laws are those?

I think he’s referring to GDPR.

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There has been a tremendous amount of grassroots lobbying, fundraising, and private investigation in New York over the past two years with respect to Facebook. It’s a serious area I feel Silicon Valley has abdicated its moral obligation to stand up to its own. Hoping we can develop the evidence that comes out of this case into criminal charges for individual engineers and senior officers.

So let's incriminate engineers for building a faulty airplane too.

Re: Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation

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Individually negotiated confidential deals are not the same as open APIs and protocols which is where alternative clients normally come into play. And the “alternative client” stuff doesn’t even apply to Amazon, Bing etc

Ironically, the whole point of having individual deals rather than an API open to everyone seems to have been ensuring the companies didn't do anything dodgy with people's data. Then the New York Times spun Facebook's approval process as them giving those companies special access to users' data, even when that data never left the end user devices, and now this has apparently lead to a criminal investigation.

> even when that data never left the end user devices

Do we know that to be true?

In any case, I'm pretty sure they don't bring criminal cases like this frivolously. There's obviously something here.

Re: Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation

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See also, for the next likely criminal investigation: http://www.plainsite.org/realitycheck/facebook.html

That page reads like a mishmash. Fake sites is it? "Plainsite not so plain," it would be helpful to provide some kind of flashlight.

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FB Response: https://twitter.com/fbnewsroom/status/1105993038671691776?s=...

> It's already been reported that there are ongoing federal investigations, incl. by the Dept of Justice. As we’ve said, we're cooperating w/ investigators and take those probes seriously. We've provided public testimony, answered questions, and pledged that we'll continue to do so

Re: Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation

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There has been a tremendous amount of grassroots lobbying, fundraising, and private investigation in New York over the past two years with respect to Facebook. It’s a serious area I feel Silicon Valley has abdicated its moral obligation to stand up to its own. Hoping we can develop the evidence that comes out of this case into criminal charges for individual engineers and senior officers.

So let's incriminate engineers for building a faulty airplane too.

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