I will tell you what I tell my students; To learn to make art you spend time working with the materials. That is it. When the urge arises to judge the quality of your work, it will be tempting to say this is good or this is bad. Take that energy that you might put into assessing the aesthetic and put it back into the materials instead. Persist and grow. Avoid aesthetic judgements, and instead produce work. Inevitably…
Ask HN: How can I learn how to paint?
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#122I will tell you what I tell my students; To learn to make art you spend time working with the materials. That is it. When the urge arises to judge the quality of your work, it will be tempting to say this is good or this is bad. Take that energy that you might put into assessing the aesthetic and put it back into the materials instead. Persist and grow. Avoid aesthetic judgements, and instead produce work. Inevitably…
For someone coming from a programming background I think that a topic worthy of doing in paint is 'abstraction'. In code we 'abstract things out' into classes and what not but we don't have 'abstract coders', it is part of what code is.
With painting there is abstract done properly and understanding what it is about. Abstract painting is hard for people used to still life and landscape scenes to understand. Some people just don't get it.
Hence my suggestion is to learn through doing what abstract art is, good abstract art is not the same breed as bad abstract art. There is also a difference in knowing when a piece is finished, there is also an aspect of minimalism akin to neat code. Intellectually I think that it hits the high notes and if a coder with one idea of what 'abstract' means in code goes on a journey of learning what 'abstract' really means in art then they should be able to engage in a creative journey with a difference. Transferable skills and all.
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#123I worked in an adult care facility. One of the patients, a 90 year old man, was a painter. He made so many of the pieces that hung around the facility. We were friendly. He would talk to me. He would ask for me when he needed something. He told me I reminded him of his son. He asked me one day if I knew how to paint. I said no. He asked if I wanted to learn. I said yes. He said go buy these supplies and show up here…
Two, it speaks to getting over the hump of learning something hard, where you have to work 100s of hours, feeling incompetent, before the payoff. Maybe intensives like you did are the best way to get through those gross learning curve stages.
Thanks for sharing the best thing I read on the internet this year.
Re: Ask HN: How can I learn how to paint?
#124I did that - studied on how to paint a design on a shirt. At some point you gotta just buy the stuff and start and experience how it works and what to do next.
Just like everyone will show you the "best way to build an app" there's a lot of books that will show you the "best way to paint". And like app development, ultimately you will need to just work it out for yourself and hone your own style.
I'd set your sights on whatever you want to see painted and how then do whatever it takes to achieve it. :-)
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#125Years ago I found a thread on an art forum that started with the author saying he wanted to learn how to draw, and progressed from childish sketches of hands and spheres to master-level portraits. I can't find it for the life of me, but if anyone knows what I'm talking about I would love to get a link. :)
I did find this though - http://www.dorkly.com/post/81987/artist-progress
Re: Ask HN: How can I learn how to paint?
#126Years ago I found a thread on an art forum that started with the author saying he wanted to learn how to draw, and progressed from childish sketches of hands and spheres to master-level portraits. I can't find it for the life of me, but if anyone knows what I'm talking about I would love to get a link. :)
A real shame conceptart.org is dead...
edit: https://vimeo.com/29510470 here's a slideshow of his submitted works, a lot of the old hosting is gone
Re: Ask HN: How can I learn how to paint?
#127I worked in an adult care facility. One of the patients, a 90 year old man, was a painter. He made so many of the pieces that hung around the facility. We were friendly. He would talk to me. He would ask for me when he needed something. He told me I reminded him of his son. He asked me one day if I knew how to paint. I said no. He asked if I wanted to learn. I said yes. He said go buy these supplies and show up here…
One, that's beautiful and makes me want to cry. Two, it speaks to getting over the hump of learning something hard, where you have to work 100s of hours, feeling incompetent, before the payoff. Maybe intensives like you did are the best way to get through those gross learning curve stages. Thanks for sharing the best thing I read on the internet this year.
It’s funny how you embark on something because you just want to try it and then it becomes something more.
I hope my children embrace life early on. Maybe if that is all the wisdom I pass on to them it mean I will have been successful.
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#128What is your current ability to draw? Before you start wrangling a craft-intensive media, develop the ability to get scale and proportion and line correct, and learn you some composition. A sketchbook of decent paper and some good art pencils will help you accomplish all of that. An old book that "worked for me" w.r.t. going from crap drawings to "ok, I can practice now and get better" is "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain." I haven't seen that book in a while, so I don't know if it is still around. Start with a drawing class if you are not confident in your drawing ability.
But maybe you already draw well and understand composition and color, and want to tackle a painting media. Think about which media is right for you. My observations (I am not a painter):
Water color: My sister is a professional artist and art teacher, and does mostly water color. This media requires modest set-up and clean-up. The paper and tools are somewhat specialized. It rewards good use of negative space, and color blending using washes and layering. The ultimate "less is more" media. Color blending is reasonably logical.
Acrylic: My mother's media choice, after charcoal drawings. It acts somewhat like oil, and you can achieve oil-like effects. But it dries much, much faster, so wet-on-wet techniques are mostly not a thing. Set-up is a little less work that oil, clean-up is HUGELY easier than oil. Color blending is fairly logical.
Oil: My daughter's favorite media. Set aside space for it. Set aside painting clothes. (Well, actually, if you go into your your painting room, stains will leap onto whatever you are wearing, so those clothes will become oil painting clothes.) Set up is not bad, since you have a room permanently set up for oil painting. Clean-up is time consuming, so oils are really only practical if you have large blocks of time. Color blending is abstruse. (My daughter is now living in a college dorm room, so oils are not part of her life, and she is using it as an opportunity to learn water color and acrylic. She finds acrylic's rapid drying to be an annoyance.)
Again, for any of these media, find a class. There is a craft to each of them, and it will save you frustration.
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#129Years ago I found a thread on an art forum that started with the author saying he wanted to learn how to draw, and progressed from childish sketches of hands and spheres to master-level portraits. I can't find it for the life of me, but if anyone knows what I'm talking about I would love to get a link. :)
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php/831-Journey-... A real shame conceptart.org is dead... edit: https://vimeo.com/29510470 here's a slideshow of his submitted works, a lot of the old hosting is gone
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
One, that's beautiful and makes me want to cry. Two, it speaks to getting over the hump of learning something hard, where you have to work 100s of hours, feeling incompetent, before the payoff. Maybe intensives like you did are the best way to get through those gross learning curve stages. Thanks for sharing the best thing I read on the internet this year.
Thank you. Very sweet of you. It’s funny how you embark on something because you just want to try it and then it becomes something more. I hope my children embrace life early on. Maybe if that is all the wisdom I pass on to them it mean I will have been successful.