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Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Post by buran77 »

AndrewBissell wrote: post #121
Consultant32452 wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a different position, which is that I actively tolerate quite a lot of crappy behavior from great minds doing great things. Sure, when someone breaks the law, do whatever is normal when a person breaks that law. If he violated SEC regulations, okay the SEC will do whatever the SEC does. But I don't really care on an emotional level if some investors lost some money. And there's almost no manner of wrong-think…

Elon Musk is really not a genius or a great mind. Both his companies appear to need large amounts of government mandates & subsidies and constant injections of capital to stay afloat. Teslas are neat cars but their environmental benefits are questionable and far more expensive than other methods of carbon abatement. Landing rockets is cool but the jury is out on whether it's financially better than the disposable one…

Hi did however manage to push his people towards achieving what they did so far with Tesla and Space X. I guess that's also a big thing? Not genius but definitely something, although I'm sure everything came at a huge cost for the people involved. You just have to ask yourself if the result justifies it.

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Post by noir_lord »

raslah wrote: post #116
close04 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We should really learn not to bother. I see there's a flood of downvotes/flagging on any comment presenting Musk in a bad light in any way. Evidence be damned.

A site like this is going to be full of tech proselytes who still live and breathe the devine tech CEO BS from the last decade. It’s to be expected.

I was a massive admirer of Musk (though not a vocal one) but his behaviour over the last year or two has been pretty shit.

The whole calling someone a paedophile without cause thing was the final straw.

Now I just think he's a talented narcissistic arsehole.

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Post by [deleted] »

loceng wrote: post #92
AndrewBissell wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why should we believe him over Tesla at this point? "Funding secured." Also, your assertion that there is no corroboration is wrong, the new whistleblower Sean Gouthro is corroborating Tripp's claims. This behavior is also well in line with Elon Musk's established pattern of paranoid behavior in surveiling employees.

Funding in Elon's mind could have been secured - perhaps not to what SEC's requirements of what that meant however; if I had $100B to invest in taking Tesla private, I'd certainly give it to Musk - Saudi Arabia is throwing around huge amounts as well, which I believe was his believed source of funding.

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Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Post by ceejayoz »

cronix wrote: post #61

Tesla keeps files of employees "tattoos/identifying marks"?? Is that a real image from Tesla (first main image)?

The caption indicates it's real, and I'd imagine listing key identifying characteristics is quite standard for a security department's "don't let this disgruntled employee in" notices.

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Post by AceJohnny2 »

samirillian wrote: post #29

As a person who really wanted Musk to be an exception to the rule of shitty billionaires, this story really is the last nail in the coffin. Way too much moral casuistry you'd have to go through to justify or cast doubt on all of these insane stories.

TIL "casuistry". Thanks!

casuistry: n: the use of clever but unsound reasoning, especially in relation to moral questions; sophistry

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Post by _ea1k »

loa-in-backup wrote: post #136
burtonator wrote: post #35

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I wonder if the issue is that most people are just shitty but society acts as a check. When you're above societies rules you can act and do anything you want.

That reminds me of one point: I highly respect that Elon Musk doesn't wall himself off from the mind of the internet (aka the populace). It's something you won't see other CEOs do, unless it's a PR stunt meant to achieve some positive PR statistics.

Yeah, I think a lot of people here are just naive to how much dirty dealing goes on in the world. This stuff is just more public.

Musk was never some wonderful person that should have been looked up to for his own merit. But I generally don't pick cars based on how much we like or dislike their CEO, and I suspect that most others don't either.

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Post by darkpuma »

rum3 wrote: post #141
Animats wrote: post #72

What should stockholders do when their CEO is a druggie?

Smoking a joint makes someone a druggie?

http://fortune.com/2018/08/17/elon-musk-ambien-tweeting-nyt/

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