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Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by wyre »

I realized 3 years ago Events is one of the strongest features keeping people on their Facebook accounts (besides Messenger). At least in towns with strong music scenes and going to shows is important to individuals. I started brainstorming features a competing service would have but unfortunately due to my lack of web development experience it never came to fruition. I might still have my notes somewhere. If I remember Ill look for them when I get home later.

I think you have way to many words on your home page. This is a service catering towards events so that is what I want to see when I first come to your site. If I wanted words I would look them on your site, the service should be able to speak for itself. Also, someone already mentioned it, but your domain and your name aren‘t very good. Stuff makes me think im about to be sold something. "How did you hear about this event?" "I found it on Stuff" doesn't work very well imo.

Being able to follow event creators and venues to learn about uncoming shows, and to follor my friends to know what events they are interested or going to.

Opt-in notifications based on GeoIP to find out "Hey, my neighbor is having a yard sale!" Obviously, having the option to create private events that don‘t notify the neighborhood as well.

Being able to post on the events to ask questions would also be an important feature.

Ill double check my notes later to see if there's anything I didnt mention.

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by dddddaviddddd »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #35
huangc10 wrote: post #17

The whole point of Facebook events is that it's already integrated with a social network so it's easy to invite people. I dislike the whole concept of Facebook but sorry, but I find this idea really counter intuitive? Creating social events online but not through a social network... *edit, so I can provide some constructive criticism. Maybe integrate this with social networks such as Facebook or Twitter (which I gues…

Facebook events is one of the only things keeping a lot of people I know on facebook. But, yeah, it's hard to go to something else cause of the friction. What we really need is something that is as integrated into fb events as fb, but _also_ allows people who aren't on fb to find and keep track of and RVSP to events. I think facebook API's don't really allow you to have that kind of integration for a third-party thin…

> Facebook events is one of the only things keeping a lot of people I know on facebook.

I suspect that events will be one of the last things keeping people on Facebook generally, just like music and artist pages kept MySpace going for years after losing relevance otherwise.

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by stuffhq »

newscracker wrote: post #39

The “Totally free” at the end of the second paragraph would be better placed at the end of the first paragraph. Right now the second paragraph is not very readable on the background image, and I completely missed it while skimming. I had to look at the “About” page and come back to realize it’s free. Since it’s free, what’s the business model? Please state that clearly on the homepage. I usually avoid anything that’s…

Thank you so much for your feedback. Much appreciated. Will work on the copy and make it more clear. Especially on the privacy side. Also having a dashboard in pipeline showing what data is stored for how long etc.

Future business model will be based on professional organisers paying for services. We are currently looking into different directions based on the conversations we have with different venues and companies. Hope this clear things up.

-Simon, Stuff.

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by stuffhq »

dewski wrote: post #32

I would recommend putting the "Are you coming?" above the fold, if not the very top of the page. I'm on a 27" monitor and had to scroll all the way to the bottom. If you want to increase conversion you'll probably find that by moving it above the image.

Thanks, tried to put it in a couple of different spots over the past weeks - with pros and cons. Will give it another spin based on your feedback.

-Simon, Stuff.

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by TheShrug »

stuffhq wrote: post #50
KerryJones wrote: post #49

This is a great idea and events are one of the things holding me on to FB, but the friction to signing up by not offering an option to OAuth (even for event creators). I don't want another email/account and potential leak in the future -- just let me oauth with Google/FB/LinkedIn, etc.

We are looking into Google/Linkedin Oauth. Not fans of Facebook, though... -Simon, Stuff.li

I understand that you are not fans of Facebook. But couldn't this be a good opportunity to show Facebook users that there is an alternative out there? I'm just not sure that restricting users who primarily use Facebook oauth does any good, to me it feels like a wasted opportunity!

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by prophesi »

TheShrug wrote: post #56
stuffhq wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are looking into Google/Linkedin Oauth. Not fans of Facebook, though... -Simon, Stuff.li

I understand that you are not fans of Facebook. But couldn't this be a good opportunity to show Facebook users that there is an alternative out there? I'm just not sure that restricting users who primarily use Facebook oauth does any good, to me it feels like a wasted opportunity!

I think the only reason to include FB OAuth is if it allowed such users to integrate the service with FB Events (which, AFAIK, isn't possible with their current API).

I'd say it's a given that FB users also use Google, and would be just as likely to use either service's OAuth.

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by stuffhq »

wyre wrote: post #51

I realized 3 years ago Events is one of the strongest features keeping people on their Facebook accounts (besides Messenger). At least in towns with strong music scenes and going to shows is important to individuals. I started brainstorming features a competing service would have but unfortunately due to my lack of web development experience it never came to fruition. I might still have my notes somewhere. If I remem…

Hi, thanks a lot for your feedback and time. Much appreciated. We have had bunch of conversations re. call-to-actions vs. words vs. events. Initially we had loads of events on the frontpage - and everyone just thought we were a new version of Timeout without the option of creating your own private invitations.

Feel free to drop me an email on simon@stuff.li if you want to chat further or share notes.

Simon, Stuff.

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by 188201 »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #35
huangc10 wrote: post #17

The whole point of Facebook events is that it's already integrated with a social network so it's easy to invite people. I dislike the whole concept of Facebook but sorry, but I find this idea really counter intuitive? Creating social events online but not through a social network... *edit, so I can provide some constructive criticism. Maybe integrate this with social networks such as Facebook or Twitter (which I gues…

Facebook events is one of the only things keeping a lot of people I know on facebook. But, yeah, it's hard to go to something else cause of the friction. What we really need is something that is as integrated into fb events as fb, but _also_ allows people who aren't on fb to find and keep track of and RVSP to events. I think facebook API's don't really allow you to have that kind of integration for a third-party thin…

The alternatives of such integrated platform is chat app, which ironically, the most popular chat app is Whatsapp owned by Facebook. So if someone built a event management software based on Whatsapp's new API and start gaining traction, facebook would steal the idea and launch their own.

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by joshka »

huangc10 wrote: post #17

The whole point of Facebook events is that it's already integrated with a social network so it's easy to invite people. I dislike the whole concept of Facebook but sorry, but I find this idea really counter intuitive? Creating social events online but not through a social network... *edit, so I can provide some constructive criticism. Maybe integrate this with social networks such as Facebook or Twitter (which I gues…

+1 it seems like to combat FB events here, you don't need a service in the first instance. You need a standard that's accepted and used by significant parties. Likely someone like Fastmail could push this forward, but you'd want Gmail to be a first adopter to make this work.
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