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Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower
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#142In other news, the EU just issued a directive aimed at protecting whistleblowers:
https://www.dw.com/en/eu-protects-whistleblowers-with-new-di...
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#143"You have what’s coming to you for the lies you have told to the public and investors" For a hit piece on Musk, I don't think that's the most flattering quote for the victim in this story.
Tripp's courage is actually quite remarkable and admirable, as represented by that quote in particular.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just glancing at your previous comments on HN (the most recent 2 pages of which are all Musk/Tesla related), it appears you are not a Musk fan. So I take this comment with a grain of salt.
You're in a burning house and people are shouting at you to get out, and your response is "you sure talk about this fire a lot, I'm gonna take your advice with a grain of salt."
Except the fire is not real.
Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower
#145"Later that day, Tripp heard from the sheriff’s department in Storey County, Nev. Tesla’s security department had passed a tip to police. An anonymous caller had contacted the company to say Tripp was planning a mass shooting at the Gigafactory." Think of how this could have played out under different circumstances. We've already had numerous "swatting" incidents where innocent bystanders were hurt or killed. The mor…
I don't understand how we're jumping to the conclusion that Musk is responsible for this. No one seems to be claiming the "anonymous call" was made up, as far as I can tell. For all we know Tripp made the call himself to make himself look like more a victim. It's no less plausible than suggesting Musk made the call himself, or had someone make it on his behalf.
No one seems to be claiming the "anonymous call" was made up, as far as I can tell.
The "call" as such wasn't made up -- apparently Tripp did make a call the company, and in a state of considerable emotional agitation.
Rather, it's the part about threatening to shoot the place up that was (according to the local Sheriff involved) basically made up (by the company, in its reporting to the press).
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#146Bloomberg conveniently left out the reason why "Tripp has since changed lawyers". It's because he published on Twitter a trove of confidential internal Tesla documents. Once he did that his lawyer knew they had no case anymore. Tripp only deleted the documents after his lawyer was able to get in touch with him. This showed that he did in fact access internal Tesla systems and he did in fact exfiltrate this informatio…
But somehow Bloomberg paints Tesla in a negative light, as they always do.
No -- they're simply stating the obvious: that the company's unhinged and basically sociopathic response to this incident is much worse than the any "document leaking" that Tripp may have engaged in. Especially when the "leaks" involved have turned out to be apparently quite innocuous.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not like Tesla is novel or unique or better at electric cars. Conventional car companies have worked on electric cars, and have their own models for decades. Tesla's unique proposition was about building an electric supercar (and even that is not working very well, profits wise). They'll hardly be the one's replacing the mass oil and diesel cars with electric models...
Have you ever seen a Tesla?
Yes, so?
Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not like Tesla is novel or unique or better at electric cars. Conventional car companies have worked on electric cars, and have their own models for decades. Tesla's unique proposition was about building an electric supercar (and even that is not working very well, profits wise). They'll hardly be the one's replacing the mass oil and diesel cars with electric models...
I don’t even know what to say to the first sentence in your comment.
Just admit it? Being a "sports car" doesn't make it any better, in the same way a Ferrari is not better than a Lexus.
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#149As a person who really wanted Musk to be an exception to the rule of shitty billionaires, this story really is the last nail in the coffin. Way too much moral casuistry you'd have to go through to justify or cast doubt on all of these insane stories.
I wonder if the issue is that most people are just shitty but society acts as a check. When you're above societies rules you can act and do anything you want.
Billionaires are not by any means a random sample of humanity, particularly for the self-made billionaires. They are among the most insanely ambitious or the most insanely risk-loving.
This makes them go to much greater lengths to protect their empires than most of us would, if plunked into such a position.
I think the power and fame has also changed Musk quite a lot, and perhaps something about his lifestyle and substance consumption has changed, because he is acting different than he had even three or four years ago... which was still well into the era of him being a billionaire.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Again, that's certainly the narrative the article presents. But Gouthro did not (as far as is included in the article) corroborate that the accusations in the lawsuit are false or that the shooting threat was fake. He does corroborate the story that Tesla sent PIs to tail Tripp - because Gouthro himself sent those PIs, in response to the shooting threat that Gouthro himself saw.
You are also incorrect that Tripp's original info release did not establish or indicate wrongdoing. Tesla claimed industry-leading levels of scrap expense in their financial filings. They are almost certainly capitalizing scrap as R&D expense.
What makes you think they're capitalizing scrap as R&D expenses? Just because they have a lot of it?