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Dwarf Fortress is coming to Steam with graphics

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Re: Dwarf Fortress is coming to Steam with graphics

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I've never been able to get into DF but I would suggest people check out RimWorld. I've heard it described as "Dwarf Fortress is Rimworld for people who hate fun" [0] and people often draw parallels between the two [1]. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/7dm7j8/how_does_r... [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/6xeie3/coming_ove...

Rimworld is kinda lame if you've played DF. They are not even comparable.

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Kitfox Games is run by Tanya Short, who’s co-authored a book on procedural generation in games.[1]

She gave a pretty interesting talk in Vancouver about how it integrates into her studio’s production methodology. A lot of Kitfox’s games employ procgen, so I feel like they’re a good fit for the title. [2]

[1] https://www.amazon.ca/Procedural-Generation-Design-Tanya-Sho...

[2] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TH11Q7VPXj8

Re: Dwarf Fortress is coming to Steam with graphics

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"No access to the source code" is a seriously weird thing to note. Is this going to be like one of the existing memory-injecting/manipulating mods, with all the downsides that implies?

That is really interesting, though IIRC the dev of df doesn't use any reasonable sort of cvs, and I got the impression that the source code was essentially enough spaghetti to feed an Italian wedding.

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"No access to the source code" is a seriously weird thing to note. Is this going to be like one of the existing memory-injecting/manipulating mods, with all the downsides that implies?

DF has long had support for graphical tile sets, and the announcement on Patreon mentions that the developers will be doing some work specifically to support the new graphics. I think that comment is there to allay any fears that this release and future releases might be burdened with any kind of functional user interface.

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post #21

I've never been able to get into DF but I would suggest people check out RimWorld. I've heard it described as "Dwarf Fortress is Rimworld for people who hate fun" [0] and people often draw parallels between the two [1]. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/7dm7j8/how_does_r... [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/6xeie3/coming_ove...

Rimworld is kinda lame if you've played DF. They are not even comparable.

Rimworld is wonderful if you've played DF. They are very similar games with different levels of complexity and detail.

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I've played DF a lot. Biggest problem that I had is that it eventually becomes a challenge to manage the framerate. I realize there are ways to fix this that are intertwined with the gameplay, but I'd rather play the game instead of butchering kittens and other things in an effort to keep the game performant. Second issue is with military organization. I never really became confident in my ability to get the squads d…

No the criticisms are still valid. There's still severe frame rate issues under quite a few circumstances. The military thing is more subjective though, it's still a complicated system, but such is the way of DF.

As much as I can see why Tarn wants to keep the code closed source, I really wish he'd allow someone to help him with some optimisations.

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I've played DF a lot. Biggest problem that I had is that it eventually becomes a challenge to manage the framerate. I realize there are ways to fix this that are intertwined with the gameplay, but I'd rather play the game instead of butchering kittens and other things in an effort to keep the game performant. Second issue is with military organization. I never really became confident in my ability to get the squads d…

I once had a mature fortress laid waste by a black dragon. My dwarves got it killed, but there were only three surviving dwarves (who had been fully plate armored) out of 200, and after the battle they were so stricken with grief they could hardly do anything.

I've had invasions of orcs and goblins thrown back by fortresses. What a complex and !FUN! game.

Re: Dwarf Fortress is coming to Steam with graphics

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Three points of interest: 1) Full developer announcement on their Patreon page -> https://www.patreon.com/posts/25343688 2) They are putting on steam largely because of the USA's shit healthcare system "after Zach's latest cancer scare, we determined that with my healthcare plan's copay etc., I'd be wiped out if I had to undergo the same procedures . . " 3) Cool to see that they are going to use graphics built by two…

It's such a disaster to see people so severely affected by the healthcare system in America. If you haven't been keeping track, there's been a similar issue with SomethingAwful's Lowtax, who is deep in debt as a result of some of the medical issues he's going through.

It's enough to certainly make me consider working in a different country. I wonder if there would be any possibilities of the Dwarf Fortress developers moving elsewhere such that they don't have to worry about a medical disaster bankrupting them.

Re: Dwarf Fortress is coming to Steam with graphics

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Buy through Patreon and they get a much larger portion of your payment.

I think you mean Itch.io: https://kitfoxgames.itch.io/dwarf-fortress

http://www.bay12games.com/support.html is the best place to donate directly and ensures they get the biggest cut.
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