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Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Is he? Musk has no engineering degree, he's never been the CTO of his companies, and most of his time seems to be spent on Twitter, dealing with media, and other PR things. I haven't seen any evidence that the engineering departments at either firm would be worse off without him.

He has a physics degree.

So like millions of others?

He just hit the fortune with PayPal. The other stuff (his "involvement" in engineering etc) is the classic media hagiography of powerful CEOs.

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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I don’t understand what the story here is supposed to be. Did you catch the parts about Tesla harassing Tripp in a whole bunch of outlandish and basically thuggish ways in response -- ranging from a bogus $167m lawsuit up to apparently lying to the local police about him planning a mass shooting? That's what the story was about.

The article certainly makes those claims. But Bloomberg doesn’t seem to have any evidence of those things, beyond Tripp’s raw assertion that his friends didn’t make the call and he didn’t do what the lawsuit says. With no corroboration, why should we believe him over Tesla at this point?

According to the article, the call about the mass shooting came only hours after his email exchange with Musk.

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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post #32

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Is he? Musk has no engineering degree, he's never been the CTO of his companies, and most of his time seems to be spent on Twitter, dealing with media, and other PR things. I haven't seen any evidence that the engineering departments at either firm would be worse off without him.

He's CTO at SpaceX.

Which doesn't mean anything really. If you have founded the company and own it, you can be CTO and delegate all the real engineering / research work.

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Bloomberg conveniently left out the reason why "Tripp has since changed lawyers". It's because he published on Twitter a trove of confidential internal Tesla documents. Once he did that his lawyer knew they had no case anymore. Tripp only deleted the documents after his lawyer was able to get in touch with him. This showed that he did in fact access internal Tesla systems and he did in fact exfiltrate this informatio…

How do you know what happened between Tripp and his lawyer?

It was all on Twitter between them.

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Not saying the article is or isn't true, but how credible is Bloomberg as a news outlet these days after the SuperMicro story?

I found Bunnie Huang's talk on supply chain security a reasonable picture of the issues underlying the Bloomberg story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQhWitJ1As

With the caveat that I find Bunnie Huang credible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Huang_(hacker)

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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Bloomberg conveniently left out the reason why "Tripp has since changed lawyers". It's because he published on Twitter a trove of confidential internal Tesla documents. Once he did that his lawyer knew they had no case anymore. Tripp only deleted the documents after his lawyer was able to get in touch with him. This showed that he did in fact access internal Tesla systems and he did in fact exfiltrate this informatio…

> he did in fact access internal Tesla systems and he did in fact exfiltrate this information

Both sides can be true. He could have stolen Tesla’s data. He could have also thought he was whistleblowing while doing so. Either way, it doesn’t justify calling in a fake bomb threat.

Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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With no corroboration, why should we believe him over Tesla at this point? Occam's Razor (and Tesla/Musks's record of erratic and vindictive behavior in other contexts) should provide ample basis for making that call.

> Occam's Razor This seems like an objectively bad idea to me. I'm not a Tesla or Musk fan, and it seems plausible he could try to destroy a whistleblower. Even so, "innocent until proven guilty" is the better standard. Occam's Razor is greatly influenced by our priors.

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Re: Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower

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He gets away because people's attention span is short and they trust good PR and things that reinforce their opinions. So they will take the undeniably good stuff (SpaceX + Tesla successes), then assume everything else that's tacked onto them is also real, any other claim Musk makes on Twitter are real, and the bad press is just enemies and haters. Also his position and money make him more or less legally untouchable…

It's really frustrating how many people don't see through this narcissistic double-faced CEO.

We should really learn not to bother. I see there's a flood of downvotes/flagging on any comment presenting Musk in a bad light in any way. Evidence be damned.
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