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install a firewall (there are root/no root) options) and block google keyboard's internet access.

What if the data is send by something other than keyboard though? :)

This conspiracy goes all the way to the kernel!

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I never understood the need for server-side speech recognition. Did an internship in 2013 for speech recognition on a BeagleBoard with Julius (https://github.com/julius-speech/julius), the thing worked with ninety-ish % accuracy (japanese language) and delay comparable to what my tablet gives - but locally.

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I never understood the need for server-side speech recognition. Did an internship in 2013 for speech recognition on a BeagleBoard with Julius ( https://github.com/julius-speech/julius ), the thing worked with ninety-ish % accuracy (japanese language) and delay comparable to what my tablet gives - but locally.

I always figured doing it server-side was just to capture the users' data,either because the company wants a big training set, or for more nefarious purposes like tagged advertising.

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AI systems that are able to work offline are great for privacy. The thought that every interaction with my phone is being streamed in realtime to a third party server freaks me out. Kudos to Google for working on this.

They can still send the information they collected from your microphone later, when you connect to the internet ... You want an open source solution, not just an offline solution.

Even so, offline AI solutions have been piss poor and Google moving the state of the art in spite of their vested interest in keeping people online is a good thing.

Yes, we want an open source solution, but I'm not going to work on it. So who's going to work on it? Are you?

In absence of resources working towards the ideal, I'll applaud any step in the right direction.

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"But it’s sort of funny considering hardly any of Google’s other products work offline. Are you going to dictate into a shared document while you’re offline? Write an email? Ask for a conversion between liters and cups? You’re going to need a connection for that!" While offline, you might write email drafts, your blog, or even a book: https://medium.com/@augustbirch/what-i-learned-writing-an-en... What's missing is t…

The offline aspect is hardly the main draw here though. As mentioned earlier in the article, the latency reduction is huge. Another aspect they didn't really cover is privacy implications. Lastly, you may not be offline, but dodgy connections can also be a pain if you need a stable stream of packets going back and forth.

>As mentioned earlier in the article, the latency reduction is huge.

Well, on macOS offline voice recognition is actually much slower than online. Not to mention the choice of words and Vocab is quite limited. I love to get an offline version, but so far every online version seems to be better.

Re: Google’s new voice recognition system works instantly and offline (Pixel only)

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The offline aspect is hardly the main draw here though. As mentioned earlier in the article, the latency reduction is huge. Another aspect they didn't really cover is privacy implications. Lastly, you may not be offline, but dodgy connections can also be a pain if you need a stable stream of packets going back and forth.

>As mentioned earlier in the article, the latency reduction is huge. Well, on macOS offline voice recognition is actually much slower than online. Not to mention the choice of words and Vocab is quite limited. I love to get an offline version, but so far every online version seems to be better.

I don't think that means this one will be slower. Google has always been the leader in the voice recognition field. I'll bet they'll do offline processing better than Apple.

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It's one of those features that makes one think... Why am I being notified about this at all? Can't this be taken care of without my input?

I am being notified but the process starts automatically. No input needed.

Why bother you then?

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Google and its dominance in both AI and reach into everyone’s private lives really scares me.

There is a machine that can work totally offline, listen to audio, transcribe it, have a basic understanding and blast me with ads everywhere I go in the digital universe.

It can then psycologically slowly manipulate my behavior via ads making us buy/do things that we don’t even realize it.

It’s gonna be a scary world for my kids.

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For what? They only really make their money on ads for things you're actively searching for. Everything else they have in ads works rather poorly in the text world. Trying to interpret interests out of task-driven voice commands is way beyond their capabilities. But, enough of that. I'm holding out until decent voice dictation is standard everywhere and a well understood engineering problem with good open source impl…

I think this is only true under the assumption "voice recognition (and transcription) is solved". I think most would consider this assumption to not be true. If it is not true, then there is value to that voice data, as it can be used to help train. I guess another assumption could be "they have more than enough voice data to train any future network improvements." While I feel they have a lot of voice data, I am ske…

I think you're completely right. I interpreted data collection here as a mining activity for ads preferences. Currently, they fully collect the voice recordings and only seem to provide options on whether the data is connected to your account. I don't see any option to "forget what I said after you've responded."
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