Being banned by Russia has to be a vote of confidence for ProtonMail.
was just going to mention not being able to recieve mail from .ru addresses via ProtonMail.
Ask HN: FastMail vs. ProtonMail?
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Re: Ask HN: FastMail vs. ProtonMail?
#22Fastmail has DKIM, static webpage, shared email folders, DNS and more. Support is also very good. Choose fastmail
Re: Ask HN: FastMail vs. ProtonMail?
#23I’ve recently switched to ProtonMail. Here are my takeaways: - web client and mobile clients are functional for day to day work. - IMAP integration (only in paid version) is a SNAFU and basically does not work. - support responds to emails, but slowly (takes them 24-48 hours). - importing messages is possible via the (beta) ImportExport tool. The tool is not 100% stable yet, so prepare to waste half a day on it. Hone…
The IMAP bridge is very slow and I guess, if you are someone that needs to retrieve emails every minute, that can get annoying. Otherwise in my experience, the bridge worked without big issues, using Linux (Manjaro and Arch) and macOS.
It has problems serving a number of clients for to inconsistent protocols
Re: Ask HN: FastMail vs. ProtonMail?
#24There is also tutanota.com based in Germany. There pricing is here: https://tutanota.com/pricing
I use tutanota and they are great! More free strange space than proton mail too (1 gb).
edit: I didn't release how cheap the premium was and just upgraded.
Re: Ask HN: FastMail vs. ProtonMail?
#25I haven't used ProtonMail, and I don't have much of substance to say about FastMail except that I'm a happy customer. The recent Australia backdoor thing concerns me, but I'll wait to see what the company does. FastMail already has access to all of my data anyway, but I didn't sign on for silent government access at the same time...
Edit: I use Gmail at work and much as it pains me, I have to say that I prefer Gmail's interface.
Re: Ask HN: FastMail vs. ProtonMail?
#26My only issue with Proton Mail is that so many sites don't allow me to sign up with a Proton Mail address. They seem more than happy to accept Gmail but for some reason don't like Proton Mail.
Mind to name and shame?
The first one was Instagram. I tried too many times and had my IP blocked from signing up with Instagram.
Re: Ask HN: FastMail vs. ProtonMail?
#27From Wikipedia: "ProtonMail maintains and owns its server hardware and network in order to avoid trusting a third party. It maintains two data centres in Lausanne and Attinghausen (in the former K7 military bunker under 1,000 meters of granite rock) for redundancy. Since the data centres are located in Switzerland, they are legally outside of US and EU jurisdiction. Under Swiss law, all surveillance requests from for…
So ProtonMail responds to Swiss warrants, and Fastmail to Australian warrants. Is either jurisdiction clearly better?
Re: Ask HN: FastMail vs. ProtonMail?
#28From Wikipedia: "ProtonMail maintains and owns its server hardware and network in order to avoid trusting a third party. It maintains two data centres in Lausanne and Attinghausen (in the former K7 military bunker under 1,000 meters of granite rock) for redundancy. Since the data centres are located in Switzerland, they are legally outside of US and EU jurisdiction. Under Swiss law, all surveillance requests from for…
So ProtonMail responds to Swiss warrants, and Fastmail to Australian warrants. Is either jurisdiction clearly better?
The Australian ones come with a gag order.
Re: Ask HN: FastMail vs. ProtonMail?
#29From Wikipedia: "ProtonMail maintains and owns its server hardware and network in order to avoid trusting a third party. It maintains two data centres in Lausanne and Attinghausen (in the former K7 military bunker under 1,000 meters of granite rock) for redundancy. Since the data centres are located in Switzerland, they are legally outside of US and EU jurisdiction. Under Swiss law, all surveillance requests from for…
I think this settles it.
I request you don’t judge too quickly, Fastmail have responded that it doesn’t affect them directly and at the same time they are fighting for users on this on every front.
“As we have stated in the past, FastMail’s business is not directly affected by this legislation and we won’t be making changes to our technology or policies in response to this act.”
Re: Ask HN: FastMail vs. ProtonMail?
#30From Wikipedia: "ProtonMail maintains and owns its server hardware and network in order to avoid trusting a third party. It maintains two data centres in Lausanne and Attinghausen (in the former K7 military bunker under 1,000 meters of granite rock) for redundancy. Since the data centres are located in Switzerland, they are legally outside of US and EU jurisdiction. Under Swiss law, all surveillance requests from for…
Thank you!