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Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?

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#11
My company foolishly donated data to Stanford for nearly a decade.

We asked them for an 'in kind' license to OpenNLP and were basically completely rebuffed. They're taking in money hand over fist.

We need to stop thinking of these as universities anymore. They're cash cows...

Re: Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?

#12

From the article: "It may be legal to pledge $2.5 million to Harvard just as your son is applying — which is what Jared Kushner’s father did for him — and illegal to bribe a coach to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars, but how much of a difference is there, really? Both elevate money over accomplishment."

How about completely blind job admissions, school admissions, etc.

No names, no race, no age, etc. Just raw test scores. Test them against problem solving skills objectively, etc.

Re: Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?

#14

From the article: "It may be legal to pledge $2.5 million to Harvard just as your son is applying — which is what Jared Kushner’s father did for him — and illegal to bribe a coach to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars, but how much of a difference is there, really? Both elevate money over accomplishment."

The first is for the benefit of all the other students in the form of reduced tuition grants, a new library, lab equipment etc. The other is for the benefit of the bribe taker. There are lots of situations that elevate X over accomplishment, but this seems like one with actual benefit on a large scale. That said, I hope they all get punished for it.

I dont think a monetary donation means a new lab or a library for all students to use that otherwise would have not been built. these universities have excess budget and easily afford to carry out new construction and procurement as planned regardless of donations. Im sure if the said parent had not donated the 2.5 million dollars, not a single thing would have been different for the students. not one.

Re: Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?

#15

From the article: "It may be legal to pledge $2.5 million to Harvard just as your son is applying — which is what Jared Kushner’s father did for him — and illegal to bribe a coach to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars, but how much of a difference is there, really? Both elevate money over accomplishment."

How about completely blind job admissions, school admissions, etc. No names, no race, no age, etc. Just raw test scores. Test them against problem solving skills objectively, etc.

I mean this still disadvantages poorer people, who don't have money to fund their kids' preparations for exams. The point of holistic admissions is to try to factor things like that in.

Re: Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?

#17

My company foolishly donated data to Stanford for nearly a decade. We asked them for an 'in kind' license to OpenNLP and were basically completely rebuffed. They're taking in money hand over fist. We need to stop thinking of these as universities anymore. They're cash cows...

Tax their endowments.

Re: Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?

#19

My company foolishly donated data to Stanford for nearly a decade. We asked them for an 'in kind' license to OpenNLP and were basically completely rebuffed. They're taking in money hand over fist. We need to stop thinking of these as universities anymore. They're cash cows...

Do you mean https://github.com/stanfordnlp/CoreNLP ?

Why would you expect them to relicense GPL libre software to you? What does "in kind" mean?

Re: Bribes to Get into Yale and Stanford? What Else Is New?

#20

My company foolishly donated data to Stanford for nearly a decade. We asked them for an 'in kind' license to OpenNLP and were basically completely rebuffed. They're taking in money hand over fist. We need to stop thinking of these as universities anymore. They're cash cows...

What do you mean a license for OpenNLP?
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