Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service • Hacker News Board

Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

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Post by tenebrisalietum » Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 4:08 PM UTC

cr0sh wrote: post #258

TulliusCicero wrote: post #37

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> I'm sure people who know more than me will give me a list of great reasons why it's not straightforward to implement... Nah, Android phones have done this forever, it's not technical difficulties stopping it from working. It's The Apple Way . They don't want you using your phone that way, or something.

> Nah, Android phones have done this forever Your only option today is MTP on Android, and it stinks. At one time, Android did support showing up as a mass storage device. I know when I first got a G1, then the phone I had after that - both you could plug in, and they appeared as a mass storage device. Just like a USB thumb drive. I don't recall if you could use the file system at the same time on both sides; I doubt…

> My theory on why they switched was to keep people from easily side-loading APKs, and backing them up easily, etc.

I bet it was simply to prevent having to implement FAT32 or some feature related to FAT and pay royalties to MS for that, like long filename support or similar.

Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

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Post by detaro » Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 4:09 PM UTC

crusso wrote: post #279

gshulegaard wrote: post #272

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So since you don't need to sign up for anything in order to use Send, I am assuming you mean creating a Firefox Account which increases the send limit from 1 GB to 2.5 GB as well as enables some nifty Firefox features like tab sync. Since it had been awhile, I tried to create a new Firefox account with an alternate e-mail of mine...and found that there is an opt-in check mark for newsletters and IT'S UNCHECKED BY DEF…

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Right below the big "drag-and-drop here to send up to 1 GB"? (insert exact english text here, translating the translated version I'm shown)

Also, to get to the second point: you didn't click the opt-in checkbox and still got marketing e-mails?

Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

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Post by deltaqueue » Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 4:11 PM UTC

mFixman wrote: post #12

I can't believe that there isn't a simple service to transfer data between my cellphone and my computer without going through the internet. iTunes is terribly bloated, MTP is a mess, and Bluetooth is slow and frustrating. Back in my hacker day I used to have an SSH server open on my cellphone and use it to transfer files back and forth with my computer. Why isn't there a mainstream service like that?

Dozens of responses, and not one mention of Dropbox. Works perfectly for this exact purpose on Android.

Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

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Post by cmurf » Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 4:11 PM UTC

crusso wrote: post #253

[Deleting this post as much as able. Didn't realize that the fanboys would be so insulted that I disagreed with Mozilla's marketing policy.]

You're confused. Send doesn't require sign up or even an email address. You supply a file, it uploads, you get a URL.

Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 4:12 PM UTC

dhimes wrote: post #265

crusso wrote: post #253

[Deleting this post as much as able. Didn't realize that the fanboys would be so insulted that I disagreed with Mozilla's marketing policy.]

Is that really a privacy issue?

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Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

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Post by crusso » Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 4:14 PM UTC

detaro wrote: post #282

crusso wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Right below the big "drag-and-drop here to send up to 1 GB"? (insert exact english text here, translating the translated version I'm shown) Also, to get to the second point: you didn't click the opt-in checkbox and still got marketing e-mails?

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Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

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Post by waplot » Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 4:14 PM UTC

antidaily wrote: post #273

waplot wrote: post #269

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are you that stupid? just enter a bogus email.

That's illegal.

no it isn't. and if it was, how are they supposed to enforce it?

Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

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Post by cmurf » Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 4:14 PM UTC

Relatively new, are additional expiration options:

1 to 100 downloads, 1 is the default; or 5 minutes to 7 days, 1 day is the default. And an option to protect with a password.

Upon expiration, entering the URL behaves the same as if you enter a bogus URL, it's basically denied to have ever existed, i.e. it doesn't say this URL has expired.

Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

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Post by 98codes » Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 4:15 PM UTC

svnpenn wrote: post #264

crusso wrote: post #253

[Deleting this post as much as able. Didn't realize that the fanboys would be so insulted that I disagreed with Mozilla's marketing policy.]

thanks for heads up i wont be using the service now

Parent checked the box that's default unchecked to get that email. If you're paying attention, you can avoid it completely.

Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

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Post by Tepix » Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 4:15 PM UTC

Quarrelsome wrote: post #267

crusso wrote: post #253

[Deleting this post as much as able. Didn't realize that the fanboys would be so insulted that I disagreed with Mozilla's marketing policy.]

of all of the people you could be mad at about privacy you choose Mozilla to be mad at?

If Mozilla cares so much about privacy, why don't they disable 3rd party cookies by default like Apple does? That would make a huge difference and while it may break a few sites (i use this setting since a decade or so and have encountered very few), if Apple is OK with that, why shouldn't Mozilla be ok?

I'll tell you why: Because they depend on Google's money.