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Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

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post #12

I can't believe that there isn't a simple service to transfer data between my cellphone and my computer without going through the internet. iTunes is terribly bloated, MTP is a mess, and Bluetooth is slow and frustrating. Back in my hacker day I used to have an SSH server open on my cellphone and use it to transfer files back and forth with my computer. Why isn't there a mainstream service like that?

Does local wifi count? I use KDE Connect for sending files over wifi and a bunch of other things.

You may also want to check Syncthing, which others have also recommended.

Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

#33
post #19

Neat! How do they handle abuse though? Like, people using it to host, say, pirated TV shows? Maybe a max download limit that makes it impractical for that use case?

2.5GB file limit is a bit small for good quality TV shows (and especially movies).

With HEVC 2.5GB is perfectly fine for a 2 hour movie.

Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

#34
post #12

I can't believe that there isn't a simple service to transfer data between my cellphone and my computer without going through the internet. iTunes is terribly bloated, MTP is a mess, and Bluetooth is slow and frustrating. Back in my hacker day I used to have an SSH server open on my cellphone and use it to transfer files back and forth with my computer. Why isn't there a mainstream service like that?

Plugging in a USB cable still works fine. I think the problem is if its too easy then people will be copying files off of each others phones without permission.

Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

#35
post #12

I can't believe that there isn't a simple service to transfer data between my cellphone and my computer without going through the internet. iTunes is terribly bloated, MTP is a mess, and Bluetooth is slow and frustrating. Back in my hacker day I used to have an SSH server open on my cellphone and use it to transfer files back and forth with my computer. Why isn't there a mainstream service like that?

I recently switched back to iOS after years on Android, and on this point I've been very impressed with Airdrop. Dead simple UI, very quick transfer speeds, uses WiFi or Bluetooth as available. It's just a shame that it's limited to Apple devices.

Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

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post #27
post #12

I can't believe that there isn't a simple service to transfer data between my cellphone and my computer without going through the internet. iTunes is terribly bloated, MTP is a mess, and Bluetooth is slow and frustrating. Back in my hacker day I used to have an SSH server open on my cellphone and use it to transfer files back and forth with my computer. Why isn't there a mainstream service like that?

Tangentially related - I've always thought it's dumb that I can't just plug my iPhone in to any PC and have it show up as a removable storage device. I'm sure people who know more than me will give me a list of great reasons why it's not straightforward to implement... But it doesn't change the fact that I have this incredible device (iPhone X) with 256gb of blindingly fast NAND flash storage, of which I am only util…

> I'm sure people who know more than me will give me a list of great reasons why it's not straightforward to implement...

Nah, Android phones have done this forever, it's not technical difficulties stopping it from working. It's The Apple Way. They don't want you using your phone that way, or something.

Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

#38
post #23

I must say I am disapointed. I thought this would be some cool realtime system to send from browser to browser, using WebRTC or something. Something that doesn't involve them paying for file servers, by the way. I believed in Mozilla ! But no, here we are and I just don't see the difference between this and Mega. EDIT: except for the auto-deletion trick that addresses the piracy problem. But still...

But that would require more brain and effort. Since many users are usually behind a NAT, some NAT-traversal is neccessary. Combined with a robust detection (for shitty networks) and fallback to "normal" servers ... you get the idea.

Re: Firefox Send: Free encrypted file transfer service

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It doesn't exactly meet the needs of "sending files to a non-technical person", but Magic Wormhole [0] has been truly great for flipping files around between me and anyone who is capable of being trusted to run `pip install --user pipe && pipe install magic-wormhole`. This is by no means everyone, but it's been very useful quite often.

[0] https://magic-wormhole.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ has

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