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Re: Leaderless Debian

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I know how loved Debian has been for the community and all that has been built on it but as a user I kind of always felt that Debian was always doing their own thing, at their own pace and their own requirements. Maybe this is a sign that that way of running a Linux community is over? We really have a fairly robust ecosystem and development has become much more refined? I might be missing the inner politics of the community that has caused this?

Re: Leaderless Debian

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I would hope an Amazon, Google, Digital Ocean, Rackspace, or other major vps player could get someone involved for an oss project critical to their business.

I guess as a user I frequently take this for granted.

Re: Leaderless Debian

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Has the number of candidates been decreasing steadily, or has this happened out of the blue? If so, what has happened? Are there more responsibilities to this position, making it harder to do now than it was years ago? Is the interest in Debian dwindling?

Re: Leaderless Debian

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post #3

I would hope an Amazon, Google, Digital Ocean, Rackspace, or other major vps player could get someone involved for an oss project critical to their business. I guess as a user I frequently take this for granted.

I can't see why they would, they don't use internally (afaik). Even Amazon has it's own (centos derived) version of linux for instances.

Re: Leaderless Debian

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post #3

I would hope an Amazon, Google, Digital Ocean, Rackspace, or other major vps player could get someone involved for an oss project critical to their business. I guess as a user I frequently take this for granted.

Amazon has Amazon Linux which is based on CentOS, and Google has invested in CoreOS which also based on CentOS just for K8s. I don't know if other vendors like DO would invest in any specific distro tbh.

Re: Leaderless Debian

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post #2

I know how loved Debian has been for the community and all that has been built on it but as a user I kind of always felt that Debian was always doing their own thing, at their own pace and their own requirements. Maybe this is a sign that that way of running a Linux community is over? We really have a fairly robust ecosystem and development has become much more refined? I might be missing the inner politics of the co…

Maybe this is an effect linux ecosystem fragmentation of recent years has on communities.

Re: Leaderless Debian

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post #4

Has the number of candidates been decreasing steadily, or has this happened out of the blue? If so, what has happened? Are there more responsibilities to this position, making it harder to do now than it was years ago? Is the interest in Debian dwindling?

> Is the interest on Debian dwindling?

On the contrary, the project is growing in terms of contributors, packages and internal projects.

https://reproducible-builds.org/ mostly came out from Debian (see https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds )

Despite the name "leader", the role of DPL is close to an ambassador with no power to tell other people what to. The DPL appoints a handful of roles, then hand-on work is delegated and done by other people.

The drama on blogs and mailing lists is in no way representative of how most DDs feel about the project.

Re: Leaderless Debian

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post #3

I would hope an Amazon, Google, Digital Ocean, Rackspace, or other major vps player could get someone involved for an oss project critical to their business. I guess as a user I frequently take this for granted.

I'd hope not. An organization like the Wikimedia Foundation or Apache would be a better fit.
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