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Show HN: ApproveAPI – Real-Time user approvals via email, SMS, and push

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Re: Show HN: ApproveAPI – Real-Time user approvals via email, SMS, and push

#31

Wow, $1 for 100 emails is very very very very expensive. So expensive that I'd opt to build this in house rather and take on the costs associated with it and still come out saving money. It's a pretty solid idea otherwise.

I think that's a bit strong without talking about use cases.

Approvals here cost ~1¢. Picking a figure of $100k as a developer salary (as it was the first result in a quick search) that puts a lowish bound as about $400/day. So you could take your estimate of build & maintenance times per year, multiply by about 40-50,000 and that's how many approvals you're looking at.

So if you're google doing this every login, sure, that would be prohibitively expensive. If it's my accountants site doing it before they charge me a different amount for filing (there's one of these every year) or being the approve/reject part of an HR holiday system, or anything less common you'd have to be pretty big before it'd be worth spending a day or so building it yourself.

Personally I could see myself using it in some automated workflows I'm building now. Script runs, but before it does something irreversible (e.g. ordering an item) it checks with me that things look OK. It'll cost me a tiny fraction of the total spending, and it's ready right now (and works!).

Re: Show HN: ApproveAPI – Real-Time user approvals via email, SMS, and push

#32
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious how you calculated that -- mind sharing back of the napkin?

The price is right there on the page? $1 for 100 approvals (additional SMS cost not included)

I think they're referring to the other side of the equation, the cost of building it in house and maintaining it and coming out ahead.

Re: Show HN: ApproveAPI – Real-Time user approvals via email, SMS, and push

#33
Looks good, quick testing seems to suggest it works pretty smoothly.

Small point, I'm not in the US so it'd be good to see the international SMS prices. There's no link I could see on the main page and the one after signing in doesn't resolve: https://dashboard.approveapi.com/full-sms-pricing

edit -

With customisation, can I put in links? Pictures?

Re: Show HN: ApproveAPI – Real-Time user approvals via email, SMS, and push

#34
Hit y'all up on intercom but leaving my feedback here as well.

I built this out internally for my app, and it took me a little over a day to do it. Had this existed when I built it out, I absolutely would have just paid a buck per 100 emails to save myself time; however, I don't think it's a challenging enough problem on its surface to keep someone from re-writing it and replacing you long term. All that being said, it's a good foundational product, and hopefully you'll add some more features that make it sticky / become aggressive on pricing at scale.

Best of luck!

Re: Show HN: ApproveAPI – Real-Time user approvals via email, SMS, and push

#35
post #33

Looks good, quick testing seems to suggest it works pretty smoothly. Small point, I'm not in the US so it'd be good to see the international SMS prices. There's no link I could see on the main page and the one after signing in doesn't resolve: https://dashboard.approveapi.com/full-sms-pricing edit - With customisation, can I put in links? Pictures?

Thanks! Oops, fixing the link now. We simply just pass along our at-cost price for sending an SMS via Twilio: https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/us.

Re: customization, we're quickly adding more customizations like colors/images, etc. Currently you can add a logo for your company, and customize all the text on the approval (approve text/reject text/title/body/etc). You can also specify redirect on {approve, reject} links to take the user somewhere after they answer the prompt.

Re: Show HN: ApproveAPI – Real-Time user approvals via email, SMS, and push

#36
Small Suggestion

In the `POST /prompt` endpoint provide a way to pass metadata that does not need to be shown to the user, and return that back in the prompt answer object sent in the webhook/callback.

This is helpful in cases, where I want to send some internal transaction or event reference codes that will help me to properly co-relate the answer into my flow.

Best of luck!

Re: Show HN: ApproveAPI – Real-Time user approvals via email, SMS, and push

#37
post #33

Looks good, quick testing seems to suggest it works pretty smoothly. Small point, I'm not in the US so it'd be good to see the international SMS prices. There's no link I could see on the main page and the one after signing in doesn't resolve: https://dashboard.approveapi.com/full-sms-pricing edit - With customisation, can I put in links? Pictures?

Thanks! Oops, fixing the link now. We simply just pass along our at-cost price for sending an SMS via Twilio: https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/us . Re: customization, we're quickly adding more customizations like colors/images, etc. Currently you can add a logo for your company, and customize all the text on the approval (approve text/reject text/title/body/etc). You can also specify redirect on {approve, reject} l…

Thanks! Bear in mind this is coming from a likely extremely low use user, but supporting links in the text that's sent may solve most problems other customisation would be used for when it comes to content (rather than look & feel).

FWIW, my current use-case I'd like to put in here is that I've got some auto-generated art based on user inputs that I'll be shipping off. There's some stuff that could go wrong, so having a final check before the order goes in would be great.

Currently the workflow would be

Auto generate

I check occasionally, manually set the order to go.

I'd like to change it to

Auto generate -> send me either the picture itself or a link to it, I hit approve/reject -> order completed automatically

For ~1 cent per order, it's not worth me even getting email alerting setup.

Re: Show HN: ApproveAPI – Real-Time user approvals via email, SMS, and push

#39
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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's say there's a need to approve 10 things a week, each needing a 5 person approvals. That's $2 per month of cost. A developer costs $150k a year, and if it takes a month to develop, you could have the service for some 5000 months. In-house developers should focus on the business domain, not on custom building business processes.

Go talk to your vendor management team about getting a $2/mo contract signed. What does support look like because if this goes down at 2 AM, business is impacted. Legal needs to review because it is sending employee PII (emails, phone numbers, etc) to a third party, who now knows the individuals in critical "approval roles". Next hit up security and have them do an audit since this is going to be part of a security c…

Yes but your internal developer still needs to go through legal and security for the same reasons, as well as the internal pen test. The only thing you get to skip is vendor management.

And in most cases, vendor management isn't going to get involved for something that will be expensed on a credit card for $2/mo

Re: Show HN: ApproveAPI – Real-Time user approvals via email, SMS, and push

#40
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! Oops, fixing the link now. We simply just pass along our at-cost price for sending an SMS via Twilio: https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/us . Re: customization, we're quickly adding more customizations like colors/images, etc. Currently you can add a logo for your company, and customize all the text on the approval (approve text/reject text/title/body/etc). You can also specify redirect on {approve, reject} l…

Thanks! Bear in mind this is coming from a likely extremely low use user, but supporting links in the text that's sent may solve most problems other customisation would be used for when it comes to content (rather than look & feel). FWIW, my current use-case I'd like to put in here is that I've got some auto-generated art based on user inputs that I'll be shipping off. There's some stuff that could go wrong, so havin…

You can put links in the body of the request, most mail clients should render them without a problem
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