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Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by mediocrejoker »

ddevault wrote: post #171
mediocrejoker wrote: post #170

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I tried to switch from i3 a few months ago and spent several hours trying to get it to work with my Nvidia card before finding out that the project doesn't support Nvidia for ideological reasons. I'm not well versed in the details of the conflict, and of course any open source project is not compelled to support anything they don't want to. That being said it would have been nice to know that they have no plans to su…

It merits re-empathising that it's Nvidia that does not support sway - not the other way around.

That's fair, but if your stance is that users should be educated to vote with their wallets, then I wonder if you've considered adding a disclaimer on the site saying "Nvidia users don't waste your time, here's why"?

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by boudin »

kstenerud wrote: post #40
colordrops wrote: post #30

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I get the opposite feeling. I feel like I'm in a trash dump when I use an overlapping window manager, and have to sort through the pile to find what I need. Tiling window managers perhaps make more sense for devs or other professionals who use several of the same applications every day and know what window and pane they will be on, and can switch quickly with keystrokes. That being said, once you internalize the mode…

What I usually want to do is just click and resize to something that "feels right" for each of my programs, and then flip between them as needed, then resize again later as I workflow progresses. Often I want some important text from one to be visible while I'm working in another (thus overlapping), so I jockey them around until it feels right, and go.

Tiling manager remove the need to resize. You use virtual desktop to switch between apps. If you need several apps side by side, tiling comes in place.

Tiling manager are often keyboard driven. If you use mainly your mouse/touchpad, it can be quite painful.

My feeling in floating window manager is that i soon as a window is hiding another, the one on top should just use all the available space, there's no point in seeing the one bellow. If you need information from 2 windows, it's much better side by side.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by jwr »

williamdclt wrote: post #99

I like the idea of tiling window managers but never got the use for it. 99% of my time is spent between my browser, my IDE and my terminal. A half-size browser is painful to work with, I need it full screen. Same for IDE. Same for terminal, I do need multiple terminals but I want them together. I also have another workspace for chat stuff (browser with whatsapp, slack, messenger) and another for random apps (spotify…

I use full-screen windows similarly and it drives me crazy that MacOS has "spaces", which would be perfect for this, except for the stupid animation that MacOS insists on playing every time you switch between spaces, and which can't be turned off.

This makes them pretty much useless if you switch hundreds of times a day.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by leadingthenet »

the_gipsy wrote: post #45
chrisseaton wrote: post #20

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> it puts macOS, built by Apple's army of engineers and dump trucks of money to shame I don't really think they're designed for the same purpose or audience, so I don't think it shames the Apple engineers.

Well macOS has tried and failed, with their mix of "spaces", fullscreen apps, and maximized windows. Edit: what I'm saying is they did try to do the fullscreen (and even tiled) modes.

> macOS has tried and failed

I, along with many millions of people, are using spaces and fullscreen apps daily with no issue. I have used i3 and sway before, and I much prefer the macOS UX. To say that it has failed is sheer arrogance.

On what do you base such a ridiculous claim?

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by type0 »

kstenerud wrote: post #24
ilovecaching wrote: post #13

This is huge news. Sway is absolutely incredible, it puts macOS, built by Apple's army of engineers and dump trucks of money to shame in its simplicity, stability, and efficiency. If you want the best of the best DE, look no further. If you're on the fence about trying a tiling windows manager, I say, give it a shot for a single week and you'll never look back. Invest a few hours in a sway config file that will serve…

I really don't get the benefit of a tiling window manager. I tried one and instantly felt boxed in. There's not enough room on the screen for everything I need to have opened and flip between, which is why I use an overlapping window manager in the first place.

tiling wm is great when you have big screen with good resolution

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by ddevault »

mediocrejoker wrote: post #181
ddevault wrote: post #171

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It merits re-empathising that it's Nvidia that does not support sway - not the other way around.

That's fair, but if your stance is that users should be educated to vote with their wallets, then I wonder if you've considered adding a disclaimer on the site saying "Nvidia users don't waste your time, here's why"?

https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by amelius »

type0 wrote: post #185
kstenerud wrote: post #24

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I really don't get the benefit of a tiling window manager. I tried one and instantly felt boxed in. There's not enough room on the screen for everything I need to have opened and flip between, which is why I use an overlapping window manager in the first place.

tiling wm is great when you have big screen with good resolution

I always code with two slightly overlapping windows, and quickly switch between them using alt-tab. I can't imagine a tiling WM to be an improvement, to be honest, because it will make my coding windows smaller. I'm curious about the other features, though.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by majewsky »

Spearchucker wrote: post #173

Worked hard at Microsoft and at Nokia. Held senior positions at both and maybe loved what I was doing too much to burn out. That said I then took on some enterprise roles and the lax work ethic blew my mind. It was like a vacation. Eternal summer. I recommend it.

Wrong thread?

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by dfc »

mises wrote: post #71
dfc wrote: post #53

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I never understood the allure with i3-gaps. Without gaps wallpaper is only relevant for empty workspaces which I dont really use. The no copy and paste is a nonstarter for me.

No copy-paste is a non-starter for me as well, and probably the largest single reason why I still am on i3-gaps. I still like wallpaper mostly because it's nice to add some light transparency to console windows. I3-gaps, for me, was initially because I had a very, very old computer only. This thing had been retired by a corporation three years prior; ancient i3 CPU. With i3-gaps, it ran nice and snappy; on Windows 10…

Vanilla i3 is also keyboard / low resource friendly; for these things i3-gaps is no different than vanilla i3. Having a wallpaper or transparent terminals never did anything for me but maybe become distracting.
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