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Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by scrollaway »

mises wrote: post #100
kakarot wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As mentioned in the OP, we now have wl-clipboard. :) Furthermore, it's proprietary NVIDIA drivers Wayland isn't supporting, not NVIDIA itself. AFAIK nouveau works just fine. There are many great reasons for not supporting the proprietary NVIDIA drivers.

Noveau sucks, unfortunately. Performance is bad, and you can't load custom firmware like you could with older cards (signing problems). I respect the effort the developers have made; any other driver would be of excellent quality had this much effort been put into it. But Nvidia keeps on being a jerk about it. Easy to say don't support Nvidia, but at the present moment they have the fastest consumer cards on the mark…

> at the present moment they have the fastest consumer cards on the market

This is becoming a lot less true. Unless you really want to run the latest games (in which case you'll be on Windows anyway), nvidia is on equal footing as AMD nowadays on Linux. AMD has made a lot of efforts and progress the past few years, and them playing nicely with the OSS community makes a big difference.

My next computer will have an AMD card&processor.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by erk__ »

ddevault wrote: post #159
erk__ wrote: post #153

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They may be using a browser that does not support vp9 such as safari or mobile browsers. Even if they support the container format webm, it does not mean that it supports all formats.

Sway doesn't run on macOS or mobile platforms.

We do live in a world where people browse the internet on other machines than their primary workstation, I would even say many people browse hackernews when they are commuting or something like it.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by josteink »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #155
josteink wrote: post #144

That’s great news. Congratulations to everyone in this important release! Now for a completely orthogonal but still slightly related question: which Linux-browser does currently have the best Wayland-support? Any clear favorite or are they all pretty much the same?

Firefox.

Thanks! Any particular flags needed or should I be good OOB if running the nightly channel?

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by aeroevan »

ubercow13 wrote: post #121
pzone wrote: post #115

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I think you have it backwards with regard to HiDPI. DPI scaling in X is a nightmare. Sway claims to have the best HiDPI support of any desktop environment due to modern Wayland support. Getting X applications to scale with Wayland HiDPI will require workarounds because of the lack of DPI support in X.

In what sense does Wayland have better hidpi support than X?

Mixed DPI works for one. I'm using GNOME on wayland currently but that's really the only thing I've noticed that's better than X.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by black-tea »

kstenerud wrote: post #24
ilovecaching wrote: post #13

This is huge news. Sway is absolutely incredible, it puts macOS, built by Apple's army of engineers and dump trucks of money to shame in its simplicity, stability, and efficiency. If you want the best of the best DE, look no further. If you're on the fence about trying a tiling windows manager, I say, give it a shot for a single week and you'll never look back. Invest a few hours in a sway config file that will serve…

I really don't get the benefit of a tiling window manager. I tried one and instantly felt boxed in. There's not enough room on the screen for everything I need to have opened and flip between, which is why I use an overlapping window manager in the first place.

It does require having the multiple desktop paradigm deeply embedded in your fingertips. I always used full screen windows and multiple desktops so switching to a tiling WM was natural and allowed me to use my available screen space much more efficiently.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by black-tea »

kstenerud wrote: post #36
NullPrefix wrote: post #27

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You know that there's multiple virtual desktops, right?

... which doesn't solve the underlying problem. I don't want to switch to a different desktop, such that my text editor window disappears and my terminal appears. I want them both on the same screen, along with my browser which points to a SO answer, in big sizes. In a normal window manager, this is accomplished by making them all big and then either overlapping them in ways that makes it easy to click on them, or ju…

> In a tiling window manager, this doesn't seem possible as far as I've been able to tell.

It's not and it completely defeats the purpose of it. Sounds like you shouldn't use a tiling window manager.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by jh »

:cries from windows:

In all seriousness, I have not found an i3 clone for windows that I am happy with. I am making due with a combination of VirtuaWin for workspace switching, windows key app positioning and multiple monitors.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Post by mediocrejoker »

ilovecaching wrote: post #13

This is huge news. Sway is absolutely incredible, it puts macOS, built by Apple's army of engineers and dump trucks of money to shame in its simplicity, stability, and efficiency. If you want the best of the best DE, look no further. If you're on the fence about trying a tiling windows manager, I say, give it a shot for a single week and you'll never look back. Invest a few hours in a sway config file that will serve…

I tried to switch from i3 a few months ago and spent several hours trying to get it to work with my Nvidia card before finding out that the project doesn't support Nvidia for ideological reasons.

I'm not well versed in the details of the conflict, and of course any open source project is not compelled to support anything they don't want to. That being said it would have been nice to know that they have no plans to support a large percentage (majority?) of the consumer, dedicated GPU market.

If/when I am able to get a new AMD card I will certainly try it then.

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