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Re: Sway 1.0

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Sway runs fine on most distros, so it's going to come down to other things. Debian experimental has a package for it.

But Debian ships default with X still right? So what distros are wayland native with Sway in the repos?

Debian has Wayland support. Like I said, most distros work fine with Sway. It would be harder to find one that doesn't.

Re: Sway 1.0

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I like the idea of tiling window managers but never got the use for it. 99% of my time is spent between my browser, my IDE and my terminal. A half-size browser is painful to work with, I need it full screen. Same for IDE. Same for terminal, I do need multiple terminals but I want them together. I also have another workspace for chat stuff (browser with whatsapp, slack, messenger) and another for random apps (spotify…

I use i3 in tabbed mode, I like it more for the easy config, less memory hogging, and the ability to hit shift+mod+3 and move the current window to workspace 3 on my 3rd screen. or mod+left to move a tab left/right. etc... Also have everything auto-open/placed in the right window on startup is nice as well.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Should, but doesn't. This is all there is: "Sway allows you to arrange your application windows logically, rather than spatially. Windows are arranged into a grid by default which maximizes the efficiency of your screen and can be quickly manipulated using only the keyboard." Sounds interesting. No screenshots, though. Just a big black box reading "No compatible source was found for this media." I guess it's trying t…

There is a video. Are you sure you aren't using Netscape? The video is webm, which is supported by all major browsers.

They may be using a browser that does not support vp9 such as safari or mobile browsers. Even if they support the container format webm, it does not mean that it supports all formats.

Re: Sway 1.0

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I remember when Linux desktop environment release announcements came with screenshots.

Sway desktops are usually customized to suit the preferences of their users. You probably won't see the same one twice. Try this:

https://old.reddit.com/r/unixporn/search?q=sway&restrict_sr=...

Re: Sway 1.0

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That’s great news. Congratulations to everyone in this important release! Now for a completely orthogonal but still slightly related question: which Linux-browser does currently have the best Wayland-support? Any clear favorite or are they all pretty much the same?

Firefox.

Re: Sway 1.0

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It'll be noticably snappier. https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki/Differences-from-i3

Does "everything else" work with wayland? Like is the compositor the only thing I need to get most applications running without too much hassle? Disclaimer: I haven't read up anything on wayland and don't know too much about how X or it's mechanics work

Every app still needs to support X, because Wayland doesn't have remoting. I'd love to be wrong about this.

Re: Sway 1.0

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I remember when Linux desktop environment release announcements came with screenshots.

maybe w/ gnome or plasma where there was really a desktop to show off..tiling WM aren't really DE's, per se, it's a loosely coupled DE where you basically get fluid window placement. Most people who use i3 don't do it for aesthetics but utility, speed, and are generally the people who'd rather live 24/7 in vim/emacs than use a gui.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Based on Wayland, meaning it's more modern. Here's what I've heard for benefits: * Better multi-window and gesture support * Gaps built in (currently, i3 is separate from i3-gaps, which is what most actually use). No separate forks to deal with, meaning easier maintenance. * Wallpaper * Faster However, there are some big downsides. Wayland is still pretty beta, and not everything works well with it. This is not the f…

I think you have it backwards with regard to HiDPI. DPI scaling in X is a nightmare. Sway claims to have the best HiDPI support of any desktop environment due to modern Wayland support. Getting X applications to scale with Wayland HiDPI will require workarounds because of the lack of DPI support in X.

> lack of DPI support in X

Even back in 2002 RandR supported obtaining screen size information in pixels and millimeters which can be used to calculate DPI... or actually, what people really want when mentioning "DPI support", an automatic way to scale the windows.

How the window scales is up to the toolkit to implement and is independent of window system and really, even independent of screen size/DPI since some users (e.g. due to sight problems) may want their windows to be scaled even on "low DPI" monitors (the whole DPI thing is just a default setting).

The main problem i see with X here isn't some technical inability, but a way for window managers to notify other clients that they should change their scaling (since the window manager is in a better position to know what scaling each window should use - especially when you want different scaling per monitor, which again can be independent of DPI since you may want a large scale for a wall mounted TV even if the DPI would be very low) - essentially something like a new _NET_WM_SCALE window property for EWMH clients and window managers.

Re: Sway 1.0

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post #153

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There is a video. Are you sure you aren't using Netscape? The video is webm, which is supported by all major browsers.

They may be using a browser that does not support vp9 such as safari or mobile browsers. Even if they support the container format webm, it does not mean that it supports all formats.

Sway doesn't run on macOS or mobile platforms.

Re: Sway 1.0

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Should, but doesn't. This is all there is: "Sway allows you to arrange your application windows logically, rather than spatially. Windows are arranged into a grid by default which maximizes the efficiency of your screen and can be quickly manipulated using only the keyboard." Sounds interesting. No screenshots, though. Just a big black box reading "No compatible source was found for this media." I guess it's trying t…

There is a video. Are you sure you aren't using Netscape? The video is webm, which is supported by all major browsers.

The video is pretty good.

If you want to make it even easier for people, you could try a set of "tumblr-style" extremely short animations/videos, 2 seconds each, without sound, and with a written description of each. For example, you can have one for opening qutebrowser, one for opening a terminal, one for switching between tiling/tabbed, one for resizing tiles, etc. This way, people would get a good overview of features at a glance without having to sit through a two-and-a-half minute video. It is also better for hearing impaired people or people not good at listening to English.

btw I run Sway on my laptop and it's really smooth and a joy to use. Thanks so much for this project!

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