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A Touchpad Embedded Keyboard

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Re: A Touchpad Embedded Keyboard

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This makes a lot of sense for a use-case. Their proposed use-case of e.g. phones and tablets (see: already touch-enabled devices) makes me wonder... why use an inferior touchpad on a keyboard when you could just reach up and touch the screen to begin with? Especially with the things they're demoing: moving your cursor to click on something (just tap it) or scrolling (just... scroll normally?). I use a laptop with a "…

A lot of people don't want to take the time and/or lose the flow due to shifting the hands away from the keyboard and in particular orientation with the home row. The laptop approach of the touchpad close to and rigidly coupled to the keyboard is a big improvement as you can move thumbs from the spacebar and back without looking. This is why I use the internal keyboard even when an external keyboard would be otherwis…

I'm dreaming of a keyboard where the touchpad would be placed in the middle between the two halves for left and right hand. Because arms aren't growing in front of people's bodies (as e.g. Kinesis well know). Still waiting for which manufacturer has this idea first.

But the thing in the post might be a better solution if both the keyboard and the touchpad work well. A great illustration of the classic principle: good design compromises in a contradiction, clever design eliminates the contradiction.

Re: A Touchpad Embedded Keyboard

#52
post #42

I don't get it. The "keep your fingers on the keyboard and use the mouse" thing has been solved ages ago with the trackpoint [1]. It's the number one reason for me not to buy a MacBook. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_stick

It's nice to see a differing point of view. For me, Trackpoints are the number one reason I don't buy Thinkpads. I cannot stand those things. Trackpads, especially those on Mac products, have a lot more functionality.

Couldn’t you just remove it?

Re: A Touchpad Embedded Keyboard

#54
post #19

Sounds a lot like fingerworks who had a similar product on the market I think about 14years ago or so. As I remember it they got snatched up by Apple and ditched the product. I always wished they’d release a slightly better touchpad tech version of it, at a more reasonable price point.

I believe apple got them just for the multitouch: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FingerWorks

Re: A Touchpad Embedded Keyboard

#55

BlackBerry has been doing this with the keyboards on their phones for some time now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn6DRcUFj8Y

Came here to say the same thing. I used the KeyOne and now the Key2 and I can't imagine going back to software keyboards.

Re: A Touchpad Embedded Keyboard

#56

If only it were multitouch, then it'd be ideal for the 10gui concept: http://10gui.com/ But... I hate laptop-style keyboards and can't see myself moving back after switching to mechanical keyboards, if I can at all help it.

It is multitouch. They demonstrate two fingered scrolling and pinch to zoom.

Re: A Touchpad Embedded Keyboard

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's nice to see a differing point of view. For me, Trackpoints are the number one reason I don't buy Thinkpads. I cannot stand those things. Trackpads, especially those on Mac products, have a lot more functionality.

Couldn’t you just remove it?

Not OP, but I've felt that Thinkpads all have terrible (and even sometimes nonexistent) trackpads which force the user to use the nub. I'm wayyy more efficient with a decent (usually Mac, but I've occasionally had good experiences on other laptops too) trackpad than a bad trackpad, nub, or even mouse sometimes (it takes time to move my hand between the mouse and keyboard, which is negligible on a laptop with trackpad).

Re: A Touchpad Embedded Keyboard

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post #36

The arrow keys. Ugh. That set-up - left and right keys same size as normal keys - I could never get used to it on the new macbook keyboards

I dunno, I think I've used a MacBook that had that type of layout. Either that or it was another notebook. That layout is pretty common.
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