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How a small group of activists got gas-powered leaf blowers banned in D.C.

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Re: How a small group of activists got gas-powered leaf blowers banned in D.C.

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don't big truck have a power outlet from the engine? I think welders are plugged into the engine. I'd share some concern about transition, in particular because I live in Arizona, but I guess things will be better in the long run.

And now guess how the trucks are powered? Now you use a cobustion engine to power an alternator to charge a battery. What is the net gain, if any?

yes, less noise, and less pollution (by the economy of scale).

Re: How a small group of activists got gas-powered leaf blowers banned in D.C.

#102

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If we could band together and get motorcyles banned I would be ecstatic. Loud mufflers of any kind, really.

Motorcycles do not have to be loud. Many riders believe that loud pipes make them safer, but I haven't seen data to back that up. I've owned bikes for years, commuted to work on them (when I've had office-based jobs), and mostly my neighbors are surprised to find out that I ride them, because I don't sit outside and rev them up in the mornings before leaving, or gun them up to high RPMs while leaving the neighborhood…

  Many riders believe that loud
  pipes make them safer
I've always been sceptical of how earnestly anyone believes this, because I've never seen anyone with loud pipes dressed [1] to attract motorists' attention visually.

[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Police_Motorcycles.J...

Re: How a small group of activists got gas-powered leaf blowers banned in D.C.

#103

The ban is on gas -powered leaf blowers. I’ve switched to all electric yard tools at home. No regrets; the tools are durable, can easily handle the whole job on a single charge, quiet enough that I feel comfortable letting my children assist (they can hear my instructions and generally what’s going on around them), and no gas engines to maintain.

The real issue IMO is that the battery powered yard tools are infected by the same planned obsolescence as existing power tools. Most gas-powered yard tools last damn near forever even if you don't do maintenance on them. The battery powered ones are good for three years and then you're buying a new one. If you're lucky they still make the battery, but it costs as much a whole new tool.

Wish we could standardize modern rechargeable batteries the same way we did with old lead acid models.

Re: How a small group of activists got gas-powered leaf blowers banned in D.C.

#104

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Motorcycles do not have to be loud. Many riders believe that loud pipes make them safer, but I haven't seen data to back that up. I've owned bikes for years, commuted to work on them (when I've had office-based jobs), and mostly my neighbors are surprised to find out that I ride them, because I don't sit outside and rev them up in the mornings before leaving, or gun them up to high RPMs while leaving the neighborhood…

Many riders believe that loud pipes make them safer I've always been sceptical of how earnestly anyone believes this, because I've never seen anyone with loud pipes dressed [1] to attract motorists' attention visually. [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Police_Motorcycles.J...

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Re: How a small group of activists got gas-powered leaf blowers banned in D.C.

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

don't big truck have a power outlet from the engine? I think welders are plugged into the engine. I'd share some concern about transition, in particular because I live in Arizona, but I guess things will be better in the long run.

And now guess how the trucks are powered? Now you use a cobustion engine to power an alternator to charge a battery. What is the net gain, if any?

Trucks don't use shitty two-stroke engines.

Re: How a small group of activists got gas-powered leaf blowers banned in D.C.

#106

>Noise, they have come to understand, is the secondhand smoke of this era. Most of the author's points about sound come down to hand waving and weasel wording. He says hearing loss is "coming up fast on the list" of public health problems (a meaningless assertion), and then he never presents evidence that leaf blowers are a significant cause of this. He started with the conclusion (leaf blowers make an annoying sound…

I am increasingly turned off by discussions like that.

First: leaf blowers are an insanity. Let nature do it's business. Leafes will decompose and nuitruit the soil. Why would anybody pay a third for a job like that?

Second: What kind of sissies have you average HN folks turned into? Your grandfathers went all over the ocean to kick our german speeking butts but listening to discussions like that makes me think you are all degenerating into oblivion.

Re: How a small group of activists got gas-powered leaf blowers banned in D.C.

#108

What is wrong with using a rake to pick up leaves? Leafblowers are loud, dirty, they raise huge clouds of dust, they stink of gasoline, and at the end of the day, blowing leaves into a pile isn't even faster than raking them together. Using a leafblower is a sign of entitled loutishness.

What's wrong with leaving the leaves where they land?

Re: How a small group of activists got gas-powered leaf blowers banned in D.C.

#109

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They could just ban gas-powered leaf blowers to prevent that.

Found the guy who forms his opinions based on bare headlines.

No personal attacks or shallow dismissals, please.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: How a small group of activists got gas-powered leaf blowers banned in D.C.

#110

Leaf removal, whether performed with a gas-powered leaf blower or a rake, will contribute to soil nutrient depletion in the long term. https://druidgarden.wordpress.com/2014/11/07/dont-bag-your-l...

And not removing them completely removes your control over the landscaping, because they will kill everything under them by suffocating them and blocking light from reaching it.

Most people in suburban areas end up with tooo many leaves to compost or to try to mulch with a lawn mower.

>to teach us, the widespread degradation and depletion of soil and other resources leads to a civilization’s collapse.

This is why I can't ever take this hippy dippy shit seriously. Because I pick up my leaves society is going to collapse? Okkayyy....

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