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A Touchpad Embedded Keyboard

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Re: A Touchpad Embedded Keyboard

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If all that’s being sensed is touched(A) or touched(SPACEBAR) with no x,y reporting, I can’t imagine the experience would be good enough to please a MacBook trackpad user. I can see the low-rez touch sensing being ok for gestures, but a poor substitute for real multitouch experience.

For example, the pinch-to-zoom demo looks janky compared to two-finger pinch on an actual MacBook trackpad.

Re: A Touchpad Embedded Keyboard

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If all that’s being sensed is touched(A) or touched(SPACEBAR) with no x,y reporting, I can’t imagine the experience would be good enough to please a MacBook trackpad user. I can see the low-rez touch sensing being ok for gestures, but a poor substitute for real multitouch experience. For example, the pinch-to-zoom demo looks janky compared to two-finger pinch on an actual MacBook trackpad.

Agreed. Seems like it would either be awfully complex (and expensive), or a jarring experience compared to most trackpads.

If you're a trackpoint user, Lenovo's usb/bluetooth thinkpad keyboard offers the same kb+mouse combo in a similar form factor.

Re: A Touchpad Embedded Keyboard

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post #2

If all that’s being sensed is touched(A) or touched(SPACEBAR) with no x,y reporting, I can’t imagine the experience would be good enough to please a MacBook trackpad user. I can see the low-rez touch sensing being ok for gestures, but a poor substitute for real multitouch experience. For example, the pinch-to-zoom demo looks janky compared to two-finger pinch on an actual MacBook trackpad.

The pinch-to-zoom demo looks that way due to them using it in chrome, which is janky by design as it zooms in discrete steps. Later in the video they show some more granular controls such as rotation of objects and it looks quite responsive to me.

We probably have to wait for some more hands-on videos, but the product itself looks promising.

Re: A Touchpad Embedded Keyboard

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If all that’s being sensed is touched(A) or touched(SPACEBAR) with no x,y reporting, I can’t imagine the experience would be good enough to please a MacBook trackpad user. I can see the low-rez touch sensing being ok for gestures, but a poor substitute for real multitouch experience. For example, the pinch-to-zoom demo looks janky compared to two-finger pinch on an actual MacBook trackpad.

Look at the video at the bottom of the page (say, at 27 seconds in) -- it is very clear that it has higher resolution than just which key you are touching.

It says there are 80 touch sensors, but presumably each sensor is like a mini track pad, not just an "on or off".

Re: A Touchpad Embedded Keyboard

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I'd like to try it. I could imagine getting used to it quickly.

People seem to be confused as to whether the resolution is one unit per key, or if there is a grid on each key. Clearly, based on the video, it is much higher than one unit of resolution per key.

Re: A Touchpad Embedded Keyboard

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I'd like to try it. I could imagine getting used to it quickly. People seem to be confused as to whether the resolution is one unit per key, or if there is a grid on each key. Clearly, based on the video, it is much higher than one unit of resolution per key.

Which could still be implemented as a single sensor per key + interpolation. I which case it really depends how good the software is in edge cases. Like two fingers close together in untypical location.

Noting enough machine learning cannot solve :)

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