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Barking drones used on farms instead of sheep dogs

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Re: Barking drones used on farms instead of sheep dogs

#31
The drone in the picture has a maximum 27 minute flight time, and requires manually changing batteries, manually launching it. Not exactly something you'd want to sit around doing all day.

Livestock guardians do not necessarily have to be dogs. Three llamas living with a herd of sheep will provide a great deal of defense against coyotes and mountain lions.

Re: Barking drones used on farms instead of sheep dogs

#32

I was already on the fence about replacing humans with robots for e.g. driving, but dogs? Why would anyone want to replace dogs with robots? Worst trade ever.

Just imagine a future where all herding dogs have been replaced by robots. Dogs that have a built-in need to herd things, no longer having a job. They would tear the world apart in months burning off their energy.

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Re: Barking drones used on farms instead of sheep dogs

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I was already on the fence about replacing humans with robots for e.g. driving, but dogs? Why would anyone want to replace dogs with robots? Worst trade ever.

I give it a year before the enemy realized the flying wolf-thing has no teeth. Animals arent stupid when it comes to the predator-prey relationship. It is an old game.

I am not sure that sheep treat a sheep dog like a normal predator any more than a sheep dog treats sheep like normal prey. They are somewhat tame to the dogs and the farmer. A flock chased by an uncontrolled dog is completely different. So maybe sheep will treat drones in the same way.

Re: Barking drones used on farms instead of sheep dogs

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post #6

Good to be pushing the limits etc etc, but is this really at all close to being practical yet? Just think of the scale of NZ farms vs the DJI range. Unless they can land on remote charging stations dotted about the terrain it's going to run out of power far too quickly to explore much of the farm aside from a brief flyover. Back of the envelope calc: if an avg NZ farm is 252 hectares [2], and we charitably assume it'…

And sheep farms can be very steep which would make terrain avoidance more difficult.

Re: Barking drones used on farms instead of sheep dogs

#37

I was already on the fence about replacing humans with robots for e.g. driving, but dogs? Why would anyone want to replace dogs with robots? Worst trade ever.

I give it a year before the enemy realized the flying wolf-thing has no teeth. Animals arent stupid when it comes to the predator-prey relationship. It is an old game.

so they put a tazer or gun on it and once in a while punish the sheep.

Re: Barking drones used on farms instead of sheep dogs

#38
post #2

> The latest drone model, the $3500 DJI Mavic Enterprise, can record sounds and play them over a speaker - allowing a dog's bark, or other noises, to be loudly projected across a paddock. Ok so basically it's just an off-the-shelf drone with a big speaker on top making barking noises. The most clever solutions are the simplest ones :) In my mind the next logical step would be AI that pilots the drones autonomously, m…

> I'm not much of a rancher, so I don't know what those would be.

Rotating pasture, making sure the cattle does not run away, assembling them for vaccination.

Those are things that people can not do reliably on large scale, but surveillance and guide drones coupled with rfid tags can easily. I guess the largest current bottleneck is drone time on the air and maintenance.

Re: Barking drones used on farms instead of sheep dogs

#39
post #4

Given how loud rotors are of flying quad copters this seems... it seems like this might be not that good.

dogs barking at animals at close range is pretty darn loud. Much of the time the drone is pretty high up, which is relatively quiet at ground level. Especially in a rural setting, I don't think noise levels would be a big concern. That said, I think like many things, if reducing sound levels is important then over time it will be addressed - seems like it would be a good application of active noise dampening.

> Especially in a rural setting, I don't think noise levels would be a big concern.

Animals are quite sensitive to noise.

Re: Barking drones used on farms instead of sheep dogs

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post #2

> The latest drone model, the $3500 DJI Mavic Enterprise, can record sounds and play them over a speaker - allowing a dog's bark, or other noises, to be loudly projected across a paddock. Ok so basically it's just an off-the-shelf drone with a big speaker on top making barking noises. The most clever solutions are the simplest ones :) In my mind the next logical step would be AI that pilots the drones autonomously, m…

It seems like a wheeled or tracked drone would be much simpler and more reliable for herding sheep.
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