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GoFundMe CEO: ‘Gigantic Gaps’ in Health System Showing Up in Crowdfunding

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Re: GoFundMe CEO: ‘Gigantic Gaps’ in Health System Showing Up in Crowdfunding

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Post by 1123581321 »

Brendinooo wrote: post #31

>Or the Tennessee couple who want to get pregnant, but whose insurance doesn’t cover the $20,000 worth of “medications, surgeries, scans, lab monitoring, and appointments [that] will need to be paid for upfront and out-of-pocket” for in vitro fertilization. Would an ideal healthcare system cover in vitro for anyone, full stop? Took a buzz through the NHS requirements[0] and there are definitely restrictions. And in v…

Agreed. Were the US to adopt a system similar to the NHS, I would hope that electives like IVF would continue to not be covered. Presumably it was chosen because the number is more shocking than the typical $500-2,000 request to cover a deductible or the less kindly viewed request to cover living expenses during a medical situation.

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Post by fastball »

Aloha wrote: post #37
Brendinooo wrote: post #31

>Or the Tennessee couple who want to get pregnant, but whose insurance doesn’t cover the $20,000 worth of “medications, surgeries, scans, lab monitoring, and appointments [that] will need to be paid for upfront and out-of-pocket” for in vitro fertilization. Would an ideal healthcare system cover in vitro for anyone, full stop? Took a buzz through the NHS requirements[0] and there are definitely restrictions. And in v…

From my perspective, it shouldn't. Yes, its cold and heartless to say so, but wanting children isn't a health issue.

Could you not argue that it is a mental health issue?

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Post by jimrhods23 »

We need to get rid of health insurance companies. They are the reason all of our costs are massively inflated.

The same thing is happening in education: universities know that a large percentage of students are getting financial aid, so the true costs are buried in a layer of bureaucracy.

Fees and administrative fees continue to go up and the universities will always get their money.

The students are then on the hook to pay the loan back. If the Universities actually had to worry about students defaulting, they would be forced to reduce costs or they would go under.

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Post by marpstar »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #30
sharkweek wrote: post #4

I like to write short stories in my free time. One that I’ve been working on over the last year is one where the concept of “crowdfunded healthcare” evolves into a dystopian game show where people go on TV and share their sob story on why they need money. Then the viewers at home get to choose who gets the show’s prize money each season through a bracket style voting system that crowns a champion at the end. I had to…

I had seen The Running Man ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Running_Man_(1987_film) ) but didn't realize it was set in 2019! That silly trivia aside, it sounds like your would be a great short story in the rich tradition of dystopian art and literature.

I too immediately thought of The Running Man.

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Post by badfrog »

sharkweek wrote: post #4

I like to write short stories in my free time. One that I’ve been working on over the last year is one where the concept of “crowdfunded healthcare” evolves into a dystopian game show where people go on TV and share their sob story on why they need money. Then the viewers at home get to choose who gets the show’s prize money each season through a bracket style voting system that crowns a champion at the end. I had to…

The show Undercover Boss is kind of like that. Every episode some CEO realizes that all of their employees are underpaid, picks one with an especially sad story, and gives them some money to pay for their kid's surgery or college tuition.

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Post by badfrog »

conanbatt wrote: post #34
brodsky wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Universal healthcare. It works well in the majority of civilized world.

In universal care you dont get access to 'clinical trials and research and things like that, where people need access to leading-edge potential treatments' You are also not eliminated the need to get funds, you are changing who you are asking them from. And let me tell you that government officials are seldom generous.

> government officials are seldom generous

If government officials are using the same healthcare system as everybody else, they have incentive to make it good.

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Post by bitcurious »

conanbatt wrote: post #34
brodsky wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Universal healthcare. It works well in the majority of civilized world.

In universal care you dont get access to 'clinical trials and research and things like that, where people need access to leading-edge potential treatments' You are also not eliminated the need to get funds, you are changing who you are asking them from. And let me tell you that government officials are seldom generous.

Why not? Clinical trials in the US tend to be free from the patient's point of view.

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Post by badfrog »

jimrhods23 wrote: post #43

We need to get rid of health insurance companies. They are the reason all of our costs are massively inflated. The same thing is happening in education: universities know that a large percentage of students are getting financial aid, so the true costs are buried in a layer of bureaucracy. Fees and administrative fees continue to go up and the universities will always get their money. The students are then on the hook…

Even if all the bureaucracy of insurance went away, major operations would still likely be tens of thousands of dollars. How do you suggest people pay for that?

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Post by rosser »

conanbatt wrote: post #34
brodsky wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Universal healthcare. It works well in the majority of civilized world.

In universal care you dont get access to 'clinical trials and research and things like that, where people need access to leading-edge potential treatments' You are also not eliminated the need to get funds, you are changing who you are asking them from. And let me tell you that government officials are seldom generous.

> In universal care you dont get access to 'clinical trials and research and things like that...

[citation needed]

Re: GoFundMe CEO: ‘Gigantic Gaps’ in Health System Showing Up in Crowdfunding

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Post by obrisintor »

jimrhods23 wrote: post #43

We need to get rid of health insurance companies. They are the reason all of our costs are massively inflated. The same thing is happening in education: universities know that a large percentage of students are getting financial aid, so the true costs are buried in a layer of bureaucracy. Fees and administrative fees continue to go up and the universities will always get their money. The students are then on the hook…

Care to explain your logic? Cat repair isn't so expensive even though everyone with a car has car insurance.
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