Haha I totally misread that as “sexiest” scientist
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CERN cuts ties with 'sexist' scientist Alessandro Strumia
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#32And the fact is his statements were all backed up by real data, one would think Physicists could easily debunk them if they were bogus. Instead his detractors provided nothing but wishful thinking platitudes. Ideology over science, feelings over truth, shrieking, hysterical pronouncements over rational argument, welcome to the age of bullshit. Good luck with your next Physics breakthrough.
What are you talking about?
The article says what he did was track citation counts of male and female physicists over the course of their careers. Most men had higher counts and also accumulated more over time. He then used this fact to deduce that men are somehow better at physics. Another explanation would be that physics is a men's club full of resentment towards women (ever wondered what happened to the anti-social nerd in your high-school who went into physics? Guess what, he came to develop a superiority complex and detests women[0]).
If he really is just using the scientific method to try to find facts he would've had to acknowledge this other possible explanation.
[0]I do NOT mean to say that every physicist is like that, but it's easy to see how this is a development some people go through. (I don't know how to get an asterisk in my comment, so I used what is commonly used for citations here, sorry)
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#34He claims that he could proof his assumptions if he were to be published in a journal but I think it would be very strange if somebody published his "research". He is not a sociologist and this is clearly not his area of expertise.
Peer-review will help with that. I strongly support amateurs publishing if they have something real to contribute. Gate-keeping based on degrees is bad.
There is too much crank science in the world to evaluate it all in good faith: if peer reviewers were tasked with reviewing every clever idea from someone who notices a correlation in one data set—and, in particular, at conductor their own experiments to replicate the result—there would statistically be no time for correct science.
Scott Aaronson's "Ten Signs a Claimed Mathematical Breakthrough is Wrong" on https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=304 is a similar argument. Though there's no hard logic why a non-TeX math paper from an outsider would be wrong, the probability that it's right is extremely low.
Re: CERN cuts ties with 'sexist' scientist Alessandro Strumia
#35Lying about the contents of your talk so you can insult members of a selection comitte that didn’t pick you is not a good way to get a contract renewed, who would have known? Strumia must have really let his victory of the 750 GeV iron throne* dictate his sense of entitlement. *: http://resonaances.blogspot.com/2016/06/game-of-thrones-750-...
Your comment points to an underlying story. It mentions a selection committee that was not referenced in the article. Can you please link me to a source where I can learn more about it.
Re: CERN cuts ties with 'sexist' scientist Alessandro Strumia
#36>> He also showed cartoons deriding women campaigning for equality in science and presented the results of an analysis that he claimed showed that work conducted by female physicists was not as good as their male counterparts.
My underlined sentence, is most likely the reason Cern considered that Alessandro Strumia's actions would bring disrepute to the Centre. Holding and publicly discussing controversial views is one thing. Publicly ridiculing your colleagues is quite another.
Re: CERN cuts ties with 'sexist' scientist Alessandro Strumia
#37He claims that he could proof his assumptions if he were to be published in a journal but I think it would be very strange if somebody published his "research". He is not a sociologist and this is clearly not his area of expertise.
As Strumia himself said in his controversial presentation, "science is not by invitation". Anybody who can present data and draw logical conclusions should be admitted to the discussion, irrespectively of specialisation, gender, schooling, social background, political convictions, etc.
Then why should he care if he's affiliated with CERN? Go publish papers to the intellectual dark web. Academia is enough of a trashfire that if you could do it better without degrees and training, it would be very easy to get other dropouts and enfants terribles together and produce results that CERN couldn't with its gatekeeping and political correctness, right?
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#38And the fact is his statements were all backed up by real data, one would think Physicists could easily debunk them if they were bogus. Instead his detractors provided nothing but wishful thinking platitudes. Ideology over science, feelings over truth, shrieking, hysterical pronouncements over rational argument, welcome to the age of bullshit. Good luck with your next Physics breakthrough.
He has some statistics?
Shark attacks increase in the summer and so do the sales of ice cream.
There has been a lot of discrimination so it might be a little early to look at the data.
Consider: The first women was admitted to Yale in 1966.
The woman who helped Einstein with the math for General Relativity couldn’t get a job at a university without some help.
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#39And the fact is his statements were all backed up by real data, one would think Physicists could easily debunk them if they were bogus. Instead his detractors provided nothing but wishful thinking platitudes. Ideology over science, feelings over truth, shrieking, hysterical pronouncements over rational argument, welcome to the age of bullshit. Good luck with your next Physics breakthrough.
The bbc reports that efforts to verify his data concludes that no, his conclusions are not backed up by real data. They even helpfully link to a page where one such critique is presented.
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> what I can't understand is why my white homies feel that it's up to them to speak up about racial/gender issues.
I don’t know what your “white homies” are saying (maybe they’re just immature dicks and that’s why you feel that way). But so long as they feel it’s important, are honestly and genuinely basing it on a good intention and with good reasoning, why shouldn’t they be allowed to be part of the conversation? This idea that only non-white people can talk about diversity, or only women or trans (etc.) should be able talk about gender is preposterous on the face of it.