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US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021
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Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021
#12The article mixes two seaparate issues: - EU is introducing ETIAS, an electronic authorisation system which is pretty much modeled after the US ESTA system (used by visa-free nationals). It will apply to all countries which currently enjoy the visa-free regime with the EU and that includes USA. So, technically it is not a visa, but your details will be pre-checked and it will cost €7 (compared to $14 for US ESTA). Ir…
Exactly that.
From https://www.eulisa.europa.eu/Activities/Large-Scale-It-Syste...
" ETIAS is a pre-travel authorisation system for visa exempt travellers."
Video explaining the system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=orrBJiXAcSU
Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021
#13To be honest it very much looks like the US ESTA which is a visa in disguise. This seems like a legitimate reciprocity to the measures the US have taken against Europeans.
Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021
#14This is for an electronic travel authorization, which the US, Australia and Canada already require of all visitors. It's simple and takes minutes online, hardly a 'visa.'
How do you define a visa then?
Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021
#15They have ex ISIS fighters and god knows who else walking freely across EU into countries like Germany & Sweden and they are worried about people across the pond. ️ In my opinion EU is trying to assert strength to demonstrate to its remaining members that’s a viable entity. The union is held together by fragile alliances and Germany can’t keep paying the bills for ever. It’s only a matter of time the whole thing unravels.
Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021
#16The article mixes two seaparate issues: - EU is introducing ETIAS, an electronic authorisation system which is pretty much modeled after the US ESTA system (used by visa-free nationals). It will apply to all countries which currently enjoy the visa-free regime with the EU and that includes USA. So, technically it is not a visa, but your details will be pre-checked and it will cost €7 (compared to $14 for US ESTA). Ir…
Why do you support the ETIAS initiative?
As a EU citizen I benefit from freedom of movement within the EU, why would I want extra barriers being erected between nations?
I struggle to see a benefit here, just downsides.
Edit: I don't seem to have been clear. I know intra EU travel will remain unencumbered, my point was to illustrate that both the parent and I have been benefiting from that unencumbered travel, so why go the opposite way with other nations.
Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021
#17The article mixes two seaparate issues: - EU is introducing ETIAS, an electronic authorisation system which is pretty much modeled after the US ESTA system (used by visa-free nationals). It will apply to all countries which currently enjoy the visa-free regime with the EU and that includes USA. So, technically it is not a visa, but your details will be pre-checked and it will cost €7 (compared to $14 for US ESTA). Ir…
Why do you support the ETIAS initiative? As a EU citizen I benefit from freedom of movement within the EU, why would I want extra barriers being erected between nations? I struggle to see a benefit here, just downsides. Edit: I don't seem to have been clear. I know intra EU travel will remain unencumbered, my point was to illustrate that both the parent and I have been benefiting from that unencumbered travel, so why…
How is that hard to understand? Why should we treat US citizens visiting the EU better than the US is treating EU citizens entering the US?
Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021
#18This is for an electronic travel authorization, which the US, Australia and Canada already require of all visitors. It's simple and takes minutes online, hardly a 'visa.'
How do you define a visa then?
"An endorsement on a passport indicating that the holder is allowed to enter, leave, or stay for a specified period of time in a country."
A hat and a helmet both protect your head, but you wouldn't call them by the same name.
Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021
#19This is for an electronic travel authorization, which the US, Australia and Canada already require of all visitors. It's simple and takes minutes online, hardly a 'visa.'
How do you define a visa then?
When I hear "visa" I think of mailing something to a consulate or going there personally for an application, paying a good chunk of money and waiting weeks to hopefully get approval.
Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021
#20The article mixes two seaparate issues: - EU is introducing ETIAS, an electronic authorisation system which is pretty much modeled after the US ESTA system (used by visa-free nationals). It will apply to all countries which currently enjoy the visa-free regime with the EU and that includes USA. So, technically it is not a visa, but your details will be pre-checked and it will cost €7 (compared to $14 for US ESTA). Ir…
Why do you support the ETIAS initiative? As a EU citizen I benefit from freedom of movement within the EU, why would I want extra barriers being erected between nations? I struggle to see a benefit here, just downsides. Edit: I don't seem to have been clear. I know intra EU travel will remain unencumbered, my point was to illustrate that both the parent and I have been benefiting from that unencumbered travel, so why…
I think the original reply was talking about countries like USA, Canada, Australia, NZ etc that will have to do ETIAS.
Schengen areas are still true freedom of movement.
I am an American citizen and think all electronic visas are a silly pain in the ass, but are better than traditional visas which require mailing your passport somewhere.
The world should strive for true freedom of movement for all people. Show up in person, walk through customs like everyone else regardless of passport.
ETIAS is therefore a regression from the norm. But, Vietnam used to be paper visa only, and now is E-visa. So that one is progress.