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Re: List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits

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Post by laurencerowe »

gonsanchezs wrote: post #3
chrisseaton wrote: post #2

It's strange when I think about it that I could tell you quite a bit about the US immigration and visa system (and I've never even used it apart from a J-1 years ago) but I have absolutely no idea how my own country the UK does immigration and visas.

Surprisingly, the UK is not that bad.

UK immigration experience varies hugely by income. Some friends of mine experienced trying to move a young family from the US to the UK to be close to grandparents were separated for more than six months while the UK parent found a job and applied for the visa for their partner.

Re: List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits

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Post by Casperin »

new_here wrote: post #59
0xfaded wrote: post #17

I have a Danish startup visa and happy to answer questions. One thing re funding I wish I understood before I moved here: Europe has no favoured state laws which prevent governments from unilaterally propping up local companies, startups are no exception. However, there is a "no one cares" de minimus limit of 200k euros. Any published funding accompanying a startup visa will come out of this amount, and in practice t…

I'm moving to Denmark in a month. A few questions, if you have time: - Do you have an opinion on the Copenhagen tech scene? Companies, talent, access to funding etc. - How've you found integrating with the Danish culture? - Any suggestions for how to build your network there?

Dane checking in here. On your last question, I'd say meetup.com for professional network, and if you enjoy any sports, join a club.

I had a friend from Spain who struggled for almost a year with socializing with us cold Scandinavians. That is, until she joined a Kendo club (is that what it is called? The bamboo sword thing). By the end of her two years here she didn't want to leave.

Re: List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits

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Post by Casperin »

magduf wrote: post #141
new_here wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm moving to Denmark in a month. A few questions, if you have time: - Do you have an opinion on the Copenhagen tech scene? Companies, talent, access to funding etc. - How've you found integrating with the Danish culture? - Any suggestions for how to build your network there?

I have another question to add to this list (part of your question #2 actually): how is dating in Europe for an American?

As a Dane, I'd say no problem.

Re: List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits

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Post by xacaxulu »

kdlkldwkfr wrote: post #118
kkwteh wrote: post #62

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I moved to Paris from San Francisco. The startup I joined uses English as its working language, so the language barrier hasn't been a problem at all. Also I found French to be relatively similar to English and quite easy to learn. It's been a huge joy being able to speak to people in a second language. I've wanted to learn a second language for a long time and I finally have a good reason to do it. Also there are int…

The salary in the parent comment it's out off the charts. What do you think of Parisian salaries? Most devs make 2618 per month after taxes which is barely enough for a very modest life. I would like to hear your thoughts on that.

Really not true in my experience. For senior devs with one or two solid infra/CLOUD/multi app deploys under their belts. Hired.com and LOCAL french recruitment firms (talent.io) regularly send me Paris intramuros based (forget idf) offers between 70k-100k depending on the job.

My first job offer upon arriving in France was 110k at Thales as a lead DevOps Sngineer. Red Hat EMEA offered me 100k as a solitions architect.

I ended up taking a lower offer but in a much more relaxed environmemt at Publicis Groupe in the 11eme. If you aren't hitting the pavement doing inteviews and keeping yourself up to date, and be willing to jump from time to time, you will miss out on higher salaries. France is slowly realising they have to match a bit more with the rest of the world.

Re: List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits

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Post by xacaxulu »

atq2119 wrote: post #98
0x5002 wrote: post #92

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I cannot confirm this at all. I have some friends who work in Germany (I left several years ago to the US), and even those in senior tech jobs with years of experience only get up to ~80k EUR and the sky-high taxes push that down to <50k.

I'm working in Munich in a reasonably senior role (but <10 years, of which <3 years at that company), total compensation is ~120k Euros before taxes. It's not super common, but it's definitely possible.

Literally the exact same offer I accepted for me, but in Berlin. I prefer Bavaria but all my biz is in Berlin. +1

Re: List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits

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Post by xacaxulu »

magicalhippo wrote: post #103
xacaxulu wrote: post #84

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That was total comp. I was a Solutions Architect at Dell EMC. But I worked 60 hour weeks, did the usual client facing bs, used my own time to fill out reimbursement forms yaddayadda. Id rather make 80k in France any day of the week.

When I was studying a buddy got a programming job and his salary was insane, or at least I thought it was. Then I learned he never worked less than 10 hours a day, usually more like 12, and a lot of weekends etc. Effectively he worked 1.5x a normal job here. Taking his salary and dividing by 1.5 I got something which was quite mediocre.

Thats it exactly. The math lays bare the truth of the hampster wheel in the usa. And Europeans rarely overwork. Its weird to be in the office after 7. In france its illegal for my employers to contact me after hours or on the weekend or when im on sick leave.

Re: List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits

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Post by xacaxulu »

magduf wrote: post #112
CalRobert wrote: post #107

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Californian in Dublin - I feel embarrassingly overpaid in Ireland. But every time I go to the US, I feel embarrassingly underpaid. My wife and I went from California to Ireland, then back to California for a year, and when she used up her whole 1 week of vacation and we realized even in tech we'd never afford a house where our kids could walk to a decent school, we moved back to Ireland. I'd make 2-3x as much in the…

The thing to do is to work in the US for a while making a much higher salary, but living as cheaply as possible and banking all that cash. Then go move somewhere where you can enjoy quality-of-life.

Tons of Frenchies do that. Hell, thats basically Docker. A bunch of smart Frenchineers that wanted to get paid what they're worth for a while. Im talking about founders and those first 100 hires. But it seems as soon as they want to have kids its right back to France.

Re: List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits

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Post by TomMarius »

gnulinux wrote: post #134
TomMarius wrote: post #22

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Probably because the culture is separated, which is not the case with Israel?

I worked in a startup in Turkey (Istanbul) years ago (currently working in a startup in Boston). The culture was pretty "Western". The office had a beer fountain and my manager was really chill, it was an enjoyable experience. Not sure if you would be able to find that in any other part of the country though.

I heard Turkey has changed a lot in the past 5 years. Do you think it'd be the same today?

Re: List of 30 European Tech Visas and Work Permits

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Post by MagnumOpus »

repolfx wrote: post #25
gonsanchezs wrote: post #3

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Surprisingly, the UK is not that bad.

Why is that surprising? The UK has had huge immigration numbers for decades and a centrist/centre-right government that is (mildly) interested in simplifying government procedures.

Wrong on two counts. The UK home office is not interested in simplifying but in creating a hostile environment for skilled immigrants [0]. Second, the current government is certainly not centrist but far-right nationalist - if the above policy doesn't clue you in, Brexit should...

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Office_hostile_environm...

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