Dancer 1.2000, finally out • Hacker News Board

Re: Dancer 1.2000, finally out

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Post by asukrieh » Tue, Nov 23, 2010, 2:11 PM UTC

drex wrote: post #9

tszming wrote: post #5

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I think both frameworks share similar vision and there is no need to attack each other.

Looks more like Dancer took the vision from Mojolicious and butchered it.

No, the vision comes from Sinatra, not Mojo. The original blog post (French): http://www.sukria.net/fr/archives/2009/07/17/teaser/

There are similarities though between both frameworks, but they are definitely different.

Calling Dancer a rip-off is a bit easy, regarding all the community work that has been done recently.

Re: Dancer 1.2000, finally out

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Post by whiskeyjack » Tue, Nov 23, 2010, 2:16 PM UTC

drex wrote: post #10

whiskeyjack wrote: post #4

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Seriously guy? This hostility towards Dancer is silly.

I'm just a fellow Perl hacker who thinks stealing code without proper attribution is disgusting.

A fellow Perl hacker would recall that there's more than one way to do it. And the Mojolicious internals don't look like the Dancer internals.

Re: Dancer 1.2000, finally out

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Post by drex » Tue, Nov 23, 2010, 2:19 PM UTC

asukrieh wrote: post #11

drex wrote: post #9

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Looks more like Dancer took the vision from Mojolicious and butchered it.

No, the vision comes from Sinatra, not Mojo. The original blog post (French): http://www.sukria.net/fr/archives/2009/07/17/teaser/ There are similarities though between both frameworks, but they are definitely different. Calling Dancer a rip-off is a bit easy, regarding all the community work that has been done recently.

By all measurements the community of Mojolicious seems a lot bigger. Just because you rip another project off with 3 people doesn't make it any better... just shows your lack of actual vision and focus.

Re: Dancer 1.2000, finally out

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Post by drex » Tue, Nov 23, 2010, 2:20 PM UTC

whiskeyjack wrote: post #12

drex wrote: post #10

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I'm just a fellow Perl hacker who thinks stealing code without proper attribution is disgusting.

A fellow Perl hacker would recall that there's more than one way to do it. And the Mojolicious internals don't look like the Dancer internals.

Thats why i used the word "butchered" before.

Re: Dancer 1.2000, finally out

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Post by jsdk » Tue, Nov 23, 2010, 2:29 PM UTC

nodata wrote: post #2

For anyone wondering what Dancer is: http://www.perldancer.org/

No wonder Perl is dead if all they have is such a piss poor Sinatra ripoff.

Re: Dancer 1.2000, finally out

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Post by whiskeyjack » Tue, Nov 23, 2010, 2:29 PM UTC

drex wrote: post #14

whiskeyjack wrote: post #12

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A fellow Perl hacker would recall that there's more than one way to do it. And the Mojolicious internals don't look like the Dancer internals.

Thats why i used the word "butchered" before.

This kind of behaviour is an embarassment to the community. It's poison.

Move along. If you claim there's stealing of code, prove it and show it. Otherwise, save this crap. You like Mojolicious. Fine. Go do that. The Dancer crew will continue on it's way. It affects you not at all.

I had investigated Mojolicious but this kind of attitude from you and from it's creator have long kept me out of that community. Yes, the channel can have people who are helpful, but bile begets bile and if you're an example of the Mojolicious community, I want no part of it.

Re: Dancer 1.2000, finally out

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Post by drex » Tue, Nov 23, 2010, 2:37 PM UTC

whiskeyjack wrote: post #16

drex wrote: post #14

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Thats why i used the word "butchered" before.

This kind of behaviour is an embarassment to the community. It's poison. Move along. If you claim there's stealing of code, prove it and show it. Otherwise, save this crap. You like Mojolicious. Fine. Go do that. The Dancer crew will continue on it's way. It affects you not at all. I had investigated Mojolicious but this kind of attitude from you and from it's creator have long kept me out of that community. Yes, the…

Actually i hate all those micro frameworks, Catalyst beats all of them even for small projects. http://www.catalystframework.org

Re: Dancer 1.2000, finally out

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Post by drex » Tue, Nov 23, 2010, 2:50 PM UTC

Don't let this poor project spoil Perl for you, instead take a look at Catalyst, the number one Perl Web Framework with a gigantic community and multiple books behind it. http://www.catalystframework.org

Re: Dancer 1.2000, finally out

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Post by scalyweb » Tue, Nov 23, 2010, 2:50 PM UTC

Congratulations on the stable release. When are you updating the website with that that fancy new template I recall seeing a few months back?

Re: Dancer 1.2000, finally out

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Post by scalyweb » Tue, Nov 23, 2010, 2:54 PM UTC

drex wrote: post #17

whiskeyjack wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This kind of behaviour is an embarassment to the community. It's poison. Move along. If you claim there's stealing of code, prove it and show it. Otherwise, save this crap. You like Mojolicious. Fine. Go do that. The Dancer crew will continue on it's way. It affects you not at all. I had investigated Mojolicious but this kind of attitude from you and from it's creator have long kept me out of that community. Yes, the…

Actually i hate all those micro frameworks, Catalyst beats all of them even for small projects. http://www.catalystframework.org

Drex, you just shot yourself in the foot. The creator of Mojolicious was also the creator of Catalyst.

Also in case you hadn't heard this term in the Perl world, this is a great example of TIMTOWTDI. (There Is More Than One Way To Do It)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theres_more_than_one_way_to_do_...

Now kindly move along and as others have said take the poison with you.