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The sharing economy was always a scam

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Re: The sharing economy was always a scam

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Post by MereInterest »

chillacy wrote: post #17
MereInterest wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, how dare we insist that people be paid a living wage! And health insurance is only for employees, not employees-in-everything-but-name!

You can land a job as an employee with no fixed hours, no manager, where you bring your own equipment, etc? Seems closer to contractors. I think it would have been smart if Uber let drivers set their own prices, then they'd be more akin to Amazon sellers, who feel more independent (but get screwed in other ways).

Where all the money goes to Uber, and is then distributed to the drivers? Where drivers are forbidden from subcontracting? Where drivers are forbidden from establishing regular routes for repeat customers? Those sound more like employees than contractors.

Re: The sharing economy was always a scam

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Post by tasty_freeze »

neokantian wrote: post #11

If you do not like the sharing economy, then do not participate in it. "Other people should not be doing this, and should not be doing that, ..." is one bridge too far. For heaven's sake, who the hell are you, to tell other people what to do?

Aren't you telling him what to do?

Re: The sharing economy was always a scam

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Post by sandeeps_ »

nimbius wrote: post #22

Speaking as a professional engine mechanic for a chain of Midwest shops, you have no idea how big a ripoff uber and lyft are until you're in the shop. The rates you make do not cover fleet style usage of your personal vehicle. Cabbies love the crown Vic because its intercooler let's it idle for hours on end with no worries. And they love the Prius because the idle uses no fuel. But your car? Get ready for more oil ch…

Does one need to idle in neural even on automatic gear cars?

Re: The sharing economy was always a scam

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Post by rovyko »

nimbius wrote: post #22

Speaking as a professional engine mechanic for a chain of Midwest shops, you have no idea how big a ripoff uber and lyft are until you're in the shop. The rates you make do not cover fleet style usage of your personal vehicle. Cabbies love the crown Vic because its intercooler let's it idle for hours on end with no worries. And they love the Prius because the idle uses no fuel. But your car? Get ready for more oil ch…

>lots the transmission at 65000 miles

That's insane... What's better for wear on the engine, turning it off then on or idling in neutral?

Re: The sharing economy was always a scam

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

neokantian wrote: post #15
MereInterest wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, how dare we insist that people be paid a living wage! And health insurance is only for employees, not employees-in-everything-but-name!

I am free to make the deals that I want, regardless of what they include or don't include. Why would I need you to protect me from myself? Why do you want to micromanage other people's lives? Is your own life not interesting enough already?

Because your life impacts mine.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19335217

Re: The sharing economy was always a scam

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Post by thinkingkong »

sandeeps_ wrote: post #33
nimbius wrote: post #22

Speaking as a professional engine mechanic for a chain of Midwest shops, you have no idea how big a ripoff uber and lyft are until you're in the shop. The rates you make do not cover fleet style usage of your personal vehicle. Cabbies love the crown Vic because its intercooler let's it idle for hours on end with no worries. And they love the Prius because the idle uses no fuel. But your car? Get ready for more oil ch…

Does one need to idle in neural even on automatic gear cars?

He was probably slipping the clutch.

Re: The sharing economy was always a scam

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Post by [deleted] »

sandeeps_ wrote: post #33
nimbius wrote: post #22

Speaking as a professional engine mechanic for a chain of Midwest shops, you have no idea how big a ripoff uber and lyft are until you're in the shop. The rates you make do not cover fleet style usage of your personal vehicle. Cabbies love the crown Vic because its intercooler let's it idle for hours on end with no worries. And they love the Prius because the idle uses no fuel. But your car? Get ready for more oil ch…

Does one need to idle in neural even on automatic gear cars?

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Re: The sharing economy was always a scam

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Post by joejerryronnie »

MereInterest wrote: post #13
neokantian wrote: post #11

If you do not like the sharing economy, then do not participate in it. "Other people should not be doing this, and should not be doing that, ..." is one bridge too far. For heaven's sake, who the hell are you, to tell other people what to do?

Yeah, how dare we insist that people be paid a living wage! And health insurance is only for employees, not employees-in-everything-but-name!

See, I have a problem with this line of thought. You are not an employee of these companies if you can sign up through an app, choose how much or little you want to work, and have no boss. If you want the living wage, health insurance, and employee perks then apply for an actual job and go through the full interview process like the rest of us. This mentality of “I want everything you have but I don’t want to actually put the time and effort in to get it” is very frustrating.

Re: The sharing economy was always a scam

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Post by nitwit005 »

In a shocking, totally unexpected twist, company owners and marketing professionals exaggerated the value of their products.

Most of these sharing startups have just been flops. They promised to "disrupt X", and then no one used them, or they were too expensive, and they vanished.

Re: The sharing economy was always a scam

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Post by wallace_f »

rovyko wrote: post #34
nimbius wrote: post #22

Speaking as a professional engine mechanic for a chain of Midwest shops, you have no idea how big a ripoff uber and lyft are until you're in the shop. The rates you make do not cover fleet style usage of your personal vehicle. Cabbies love the crown Vic because its intercooler let's it idle for hours on end with no worries. And they love the Prius because the idle uses no fuel. But your car? Get ready for more oil ch…

>lots the transmission at 65000 miles That's insane... What's better for wear on the engine, turning it off then on or idling in neutral?

Well for the engine, of course idling
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