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Re: PureOS is convergent

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Post by emgee_1 » Thu, Mar 07, 2019, 9:02 PM UTC

tombert wrote: post #185

notonmywatch wrote: post #157

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>> "but I feel incredibly limited in what I can actually do with my iPhone" > That's because they're intended to work as media consumption devices rather than productivity ones. If someone feels productive on a phone, he or she has very likely adapted herself to the device than the other way around. What are you talking about? Literally millions of people use their phones to create every day. They take pictures and p…

There's no doubt you can create lots of stuff, and I would not say otherwise; the iPhone has a nice camera and the tools for media production on the iPhone are actually pretty ok. All that being said, I don't do any of that stuff; I write software and write the occasional blog post. For me, I need a compiler, text editor, git, a good terminal etc. In this regard, my old Packard Bell is honestly more powerful, and des…

Hear hear!

Re: PureOS is convergent

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Post by wlesieutre » Thu, Mar 07, 2019, 9:09 PM UTC

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #177

wlesieutre wrote: post #72

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Oooh very cool. I wish Apple still had Target Display Mode as a feature on their devices, it'd be great to toss this in a bag as an "I might need a real computer" concession and be able to use my iPad as an external display for it.

fwiw, Target Display Mode is still a feature on new iMacs, they never killed it per se. Won't help you on your iPad, though.

Unfortunately not anymore. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204592#requirements

> iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014) and later iMac models can't be used as Target Display Mode displays.

Or does that description apply only to 5K iMacs and not to ther other models? The "and later iMac models" statement reads as very broad to me.

Re: PureOS is convergent

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Post by tombert » Thu, Mar 07, 2019, 9:10 PM UTC

computerex wrote: post #186

encypruon wrote: post #182

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The Nokia N900 used to fill this spot between phone and PC for me. It has a slider keyboard and came with a Debian based Linux distro (Maemo) installed on it. Typing was much more comfortable than with a touchscreen and with a few changes to the Xorg keyboard config it was even suitable for programming. The padding madness wasn't there yet and even though the screen was very small by today's standards, it was used ve…

I hear you. Coming from a desktop app development background, I never got into mobile development because from far away it looks so constrained. I dream of a phone where I can use its hardware in whatever way I want.

PostmarketOS seems promising...it doesn't have great hardware support right not but I see no reason that couldn't change.

Re: PureOS is convergent

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Post by wlesieutre » Thu, Mar 07, 2019, 9:11 PM UTC

spockz wrote: post #181

wlesieutre wrote: post #72

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Oooh very cool. I wish Apple still had Target Display Mode as a feature on their devices, it'd be great to toss this in a bag as an "I might need a real computer" concession and be able to use my iPad as an external display for it.

I have been using duet[1] successfully for a while now to use my iPad as a second screen. [1]: https://www.duetdisplay.com/

I'd used that from a Mac, didn't realize they had Windows support!

Re: PureOS is convergent

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Post by jethro_tell » Thu, Mar 07, 2019, 9:28 PM UTC

benatkin wrote: post #180

The article started off with a wild assertion, that "Purism is beating the duopoly to that dream". A duopoly on computing? Windows is still by far the biggest desktop computing platform. They may have messed up mobile, but that doesn't make them irrelevant.

it does if you're talking about two platforms converging. Be hard to win that race with one platform.

Re: PureOS is convergent

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Post by colonelpopcorn » Thu, Mar 07, 2019, 9:28 PM UTC

tombert wrote: post #38

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #20

My primary concern with this is that different applications are inherently optimized for the platform on which they were originally designed. There are some applications that have a very dense UI because there's simply alot of functionality that the program handles (think of a video editor, an IDE, etc). Trying to slim down those applications to make them reactive so that they will scale onto a phone or tablet just s…

I have the GPD Win that I bought a couple years ago, which is more or a less a Nintendo-DS-Sized computer running "real" Windows, and I love it. I can do programming on the train, even while standing up, as well as use all the tooling that I like, including Vim actually. The only limitation for me has honestly been Windows, since I'm more of a Unixey guy. Something that has always bothered me is that smartphones are…

I imagine the workstation of the future will be at least as portable as our current mobile phones are.

Re: PureOS is convergent

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Post by neilsimp1 » Thu, Mar 07, 2019, 9:30 PM UTC

tobiaswk wrote: post #64

Was very interested in their stuff. I was very disappointed when I saw a demo of the current state of Librem 5 running on development hardware. It did not look good. Laggy and slow. Very bad UI/UX.

I was a little disheartened as well, but that video was made early on in development. There was and still is time for optimization. I don't think the hardware is incapable of a smooth user experience. It's a software problem.

Re: PureOS is convergent

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Post by benatkin » Thu, Mar 07, 2019, 9:38 PM UTC

jethro_tell wrote: post #195

benatkin wrote: post #180

The article started off with a wild assertion, that "Purism is beating the duopoly to that dream". A duopoly on computing? Windows is still by far the biggest desktop computing platform. They may have messed up mobile, but that doesn't make them irrelevant.

it does if you're talking about two platforms converging. Be hard to win that race with one platform.

That probably means that Android is not converging with a desktop platform anytime soon, except for a negligable fraction of users.

Chrome OS certainly isn't a part of any duopoly. Not even close.

Re: PureOS is convergent

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Post by theyinwhy » Thu, Mar 07, 2019, 9:39 PM UTC

tombert wrote: post #193

computerex wrote: post #186

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I hear you. Coming from a desktop app development background, I never got into mobile development because from far away it looks so constrained. I dream of a phone where I can use its hardware in whatever way I want.

PostmarketOS seems promising...it doesn't have great hardware support right not but I see no reason that couldn't change.

Hardware support is hard, that's why this normally fails, unfortunately.

Re: PureOS is convergent

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Post by swiley » Thu, Mar 07, 2019, 9:41 PM UTC

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #20

My primary concern with this is that different applications are inherently optimized for the platform on which they were originally designed. There are some applications that have a very dense UI because there's simply alot of functionality that the program handles (think of a video editor, an IDE, etc). Trying to slim down those applications to make them reactive so that they will scale onto a phone or tablet just s…

I personally prefer keyboard driven UIs on my phone because all the UI elements are always in the same place.

On smartphone native apps all the buttons are always piping up and sliding over each other, when you eventually hit one accidentally and it triggers some blocking or irreversible action it’s super frustrating.

It’s so bad that I honestly think I have a smaller error rate with the touchscreen keyboard than touchscreen GUIs.