register Notepad++ Limited for about £10/$15?
There isn't even a need for that. Code signing certificates can also be acquired by individuals. For example, TortoiseSVN is signed by Stefan Küng personally (last time I checked).
Notepad++ drops code signing for its releases
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Re: Notepad++ drops code signing for its releases
#52Re: Notepad++ drops code signing for its releases
#53I remember the good old days when people were actually trusted to do their own research before downloading a potentially dangerous exe. Now all we have are app store and certificate rackets. Im looking at Google and Apple too. Shame on the industry for accepting 30% revenue share on their services. The idea of an app store is great but not when it excludes other legitimate ways of installing software on device. These…
>I remember the good old days when people were actually trusted to do their own research before downloading a potentially dangerous exe. Is there any evidence that was ever really a thing / effective? How could you possibly know? There are plenty of examples of previously trustworthy software becoming untrustworthy, same with sites you download the code from. That line reads like the absurd advice that security exper…
Re: Notepad++ drops code signing for its releases
#54Interesting that they will check the hashes of dependencies at runtime. But then I start to wonder - why dynamic linking if the library can't be replaced?
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-static-...
Re: Notepad++ drops code signing for its releases
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why bother checking the signature of dependencies if the main executable integrity isn't being checked? What really surprises me is that the author of something as great as Notepad++ isn't making enough money from the project to easily be able to pay for the certificate.
It's not about the price, but about name on the certificate: > However I cannot use "Notepad++" as CN to sign because Notepad++ doesn’t exist as company or organization CAs would put author's name as CN, which isn't great, especially for collaborative project.
OK I'll just buy an LLC from a state that's cheap (never mind the paperwork) but that's no good either because the new entity had no listed phone number...
Re: Notepad++ drops code signing for its releases
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I remember the good old days when people were actually trusted to do their own research before downloading a potentially dangerous exe. Is there any evidence that was ever really a thing / effective? How could you possibly know? There are plenty of examples of previously trustworthy software becoming untrustworthy, same with sites you download the code from. That line reads like the absurd advice that security exper…
Of course but all of the above mentioned can still happen and does happen today with all security measures in place. With the added benefit that we must ask permission of a private entity to release an app and we must pay 30% of our profits to the gatekeepers /s I think I like the old way better.
Your old way still exists. Approximately all real world users demonstrably prefer the new way, but if you're set on your old way you can still write software for macOS and Windows. It will pop a warning, but you can make it run anyway. Give your users instructions for bypassing those warnings. If you trust them to manually verify your software then you trust them to follow those directions.
Re: Notepad++ drops code signing for its releases
#57Interesting that they will check the hashes of dependencies at runtime. But then I start to wonder - why dynamic linking if the library can't be replaced?
Why bother checking the signature of dependencies if the main executable integrity isn't being checked? What really surprises me is that the author of something as great as Notepad++ isn't making enough money from the project to easily be able to pay for the certificate.
Re: Notepad++ drops code signing for its releases
#58I remember the good old days when people were actually trusted to do their own research before downloading a potentially dangerous exe. Now all we have are app store and certificate rackets. Im looking at Google and Apple too. Shame on the industry for accepting 30% revenue share on their services. The idea of an app store is great but not when it excludes other legitimate ways of installing software on device. These…
>I remember the good old days when people were actually trusted to do their own research before downloading a potentially dangerous exe. Is there any evidence that was ever really a thing / effective? How could you possibly know? There are plenty of examples of previously trustworthy software becoming untrustworthy, same with sites you download the code from. That line reads like the absurd advice that security exper…
The security paranoid experts and FOSS zealots have always thought for some inexplicable reasons that if you can download a source and build the program yourself, then it's safe.
Re: Notepad++ drops code signing for its releases
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
>>FOSS and reading all the code... Don't forget, you have to compile from source as well. I'm thinking the parent you replied to forgot how awful sourceforge was, and even trustworthy projects could have garbage bundled in.
Every good dev knows to stay the hell away from sourceforge!
Let me guess: you also dislike GitHub because it's closed, and wish people would distribute software from their own, self-hosted git repositories?
Re: Notepad++ drops code signing for its releases
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
There isn't even a need for that. Code signing certificates can also be acquired by individuals. For example, TortoiseSVN is signed by Stefan Küng personally (last time I checked).
To do that you need to provide some sort of notarised letter, so that adds more cost to the certificate.