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PureOS is convergent

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Re: PureOS is convergent

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Lots of haters here. This company is trying to build a real alternative to the Apple/Google/MS oligopoly based on open source and respect for privacy. I'm really really tempted.

At this exact moment there's three comments including yours. What are you referring to, exactly?

Priming the tribalism lines, I'd guess.

We seem to yearn for our turf wars to the degree that we help them along. Not sure why.

Re: PureOS is convergent

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I've got to switch to your laptop and your phone to get the benefit of being in sync? No thanks. Not worth it to me.

No, you switch to their products because you agree with their goals and want to support the cause. The benefits are a bonus.

Re: PureOS is convergent

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This is nice, but what problem does it solve? Mobile and Desktop operating systems solve different issues on their own. Ubuntu tried this - how'd that go? Second issue is: how do I use it? How can I install it on MY devices? I'm all for privacy and I want to is it, just seems like a dream and it will never come to fruition

It solves bug #1

This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.

Steps to repeat:

    1. Visit a local PC store.
    2. Attempt to buy a machine without any proprietary software.
What happens:

Almost always, a majority of PCs for sale have Microsoft Windows pre-installed. In the rare cases that they come with a GNU/Linux operating system or no operating system at all, the drivers and BIOS may be proprietary.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1

Re: PureOS is convergent

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I keep looking at their products (laptop & phone) and can't pull the trigger based on what seems like a lack of apps/UX. I really want have better privacy and support companies with that in their DNA. I almost purchased a black-phone before.

I really think sandboxing built-in emulator for android apps has to occur for the phone to get traction. I think i'm their ideal consumer and still can't see the value yet. I'm a technical person who is willing to deal with some issues/trade-offs for privacy, but still can't reach the tipping point to purchase.

I also think this a place where duckduckgo could partner with with their services. I think most consumers wants things to be polished and just work.

Re: PureOS is convergent

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post #5

This is nice, but what problem does it solve? Mobile and Desktop operating systems solve different issues on their own. Ubuntu tried this - how'd that go? Second issue is: how do I use it? How can I install it on MY devices? I'm all for privacy and I want to is it, just seems like a dream and it will never come to fruition

> This is nice, but what problem does it solve?

It solves a _development_ problem, in that it reduces the amount of work needed to allow an application to reach a larger number of devices. Basically the same reason for things like React Native and PWAs.

> Ubuntu tried this - how'd that go?

So because someone else failed at solving a particular problem in a particular way previously, we should simply give up on it?

Re: PureOS is convergent

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post #5

This is nice, but what problem does it solve? Mobile and Desktop operating systems solve different issues on their own. Ubuntu tried this - how'd that go? Second issue is: how do I use it? How can I install it on MY devices? I'm all for privacy and I want to is it, just seems like a dream and it will never come to fruition

> This is nice, but what problem does it solve? It solves a _development_ problem, in that it reduces the amount of work needed to allow an application to reach a larger number of devices. Basically the same reason for things like React Native and PWAs. > Ubuntu tried this - how'd that go? So because someone else failed at solving a particular problem in a particular way previously, we should simply give up on it?

How does it solve a development problem when an ecosystem doesn't really exist (On Linux) in the real world?

Re: PureOS is convergent

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post #5

This is nice, but what problem does it solve? Mobile and Desktop operating systems solve different issues on their own. Ubuntu tried this - how'd that go? Second issue is: how do I use it? How can I install it on MY devices? I'm all for privacy and I want to is it, just seems like a dream and it will never come to fruition

> Ubuntu tried this - how'd that go?

See also: Microsoft. The entire point of Windows 8 and later UWP were convergence.

In fact that article reads like pure bullshit, they're only mentioning the two OS vendors which are not attempting convergence (some cross-polination at best) and ignoring the history of suck and failure that is "OS convergence".

Re: PureOS is convergent

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post #14
post #5

This is nice, but what problem does it solve? Mobile and Desktop operating systems solve different issues on their own. Ubuntu tried this - how'd that go? Second issue is: how do I use it? How can I install it on MY devices? I'm all for privacy and I want to is it, just seems like a dream and it will never come to fruition

It solves bug #1 This bug is widely evident in the PC industry. Steps to repeat: 1. Visit a local PC store. 2. Attempt to buy a machine without any proprietary software. What happens: Almost always, a majority of PCs for sale have Microsoft Windows pre-installed. In the rare cases that they come with a GNU/Linux operating system or no operating system at all, the drivers and BIOS may be proprietary. https://bugs.laun…

> It solves bug #1

It doesn't do so anymore than ubuntu already does.

Re: PureOS is convergent

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My primary concern with this is that different applications are inherently optimized for the platform on which they were originally designed. There are some applications that have a very dense UI because there's simply alot of functionality that the program handles (think of a video editor, an IDE, etc). Trying to slim down those applications to make them reactive so that they will scale onto a phone or tablet just seems silly, and I fear that in the name of making "everything work everywhere", we're going to compromise a bunch of apps that worked beautifully on one platform in favor of making them work adequately on several platforms.

I mean, if someone said, "I've successfully ported Vim to Android!", my first thought would be, "Why in god's name would I want to run vim on my phone?"*

* Ruling out, of course, someone plugging their phone into external KVM.

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