Looks like I'm launching Libr (https://librapp.com) at the right time. I started it because of Tumblrs new censorship policies, but it looks like there's a good opportunity to set it apart from Facebook and Twitter and their ML powered unethical tracking
U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says
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Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says
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I think they do actually care about privacy but are only ever offered illusion. The problem really is lack of choice.
No one wants choice either. Having 100 social media apps on your phone is not ideal. We want one choice that is also a good choice. That seems virtually impossible when companies are motivated only by profit and only kept in check by customers having a better choice or by government regulation. If facebook was driven purely by the motivation to help people stay in touch with their friends and to find events going on…
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> What does your daughter use to connect with friends? Steam and SMS, primarily. WhatsApp, too, but to a lesser degree. And, probably, something else that I'm not aware of.
Steam? Can you please elaborate, I am getting old I didn't even know steam had a social component. (except people leaving reviews, or posting to game forums about parts of the game)
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Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says
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> For me personally, it's almost impossible to deal with. Way too many political posts from my friends and family. Bingo, that's what's doing it for me. Before the 2016 presidential election, Facebook was fun. It was also a great way to get news. But now, what I'm finding is that a lot of people on Facebook just don't know how to behave in a public forum. It makes it painful, because someone always knows someone who'…
Lots of things changed. Facebook began as an exclusive social network for upper-class students. Gradually it grew to encompass not just all of America, but the entire world. It turns out, many of us well educated people don't really want to network or socialize with poorly educated people. Police started monitoring our activities, so the events all but disappeared. The world changed, too. Facts used to matter; we rea…
> It turns out, many of us well educated people don't really want to network or socialize with poorly educated people.
Are you speaking for yourself here?
Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says
#415By far the biggest factor that had me stopping checking Facebook, and indeed LinkedIn, is number of utterly fictitious notifications they generate. There was a time a few years back when that red dot made me drop everything to check FB, but these days it’ll be some completely bullshit message they’ve made a notification out of. Feels like they got greedy for my attention and killed the golden goose there. I check it…
Even more annoying is the same thing that they do with email notifications. They seem to keep inventing new "categories" of notifications all the time that I haven't yet opted out of - basically because I seem to be only able to opt out of just that specific category that they just sent me an email about, when I click on the "don't want to receive any more of these mails" link below the message. And every time, they…
after about 3 or 4 iterations of me reviewing my email setting, I got seriously fed up and I've gone for the nuclear option: all my facebook emails are marked as spam and binned.
Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says
#416By far the biggest factor that had me stopping checking Facebook, and indeed LinkedIn, is number of utterly fictitious notifications they generate. There was a time a few years back when that red dot made me drop everything to check FB, but these days it’ll be some completely bullshit message they’ve made a notification out of. Feels like they got greedy for my attention and killed the golden goose there. I check it…
Even more annoying is the same thing that they do with email notifications. They seem to keep inventing new "categories" of notifications all the time that I haven't yet opted out of - basically because I seem to be only able to opt out of just that specific category that they just sent me an email about, when I click on the "don't want to receive any more of these mails" link below the message. And every time, they…
I opted out of all emails altogether - I only check my notifications once in a while. I've never missed anything of value.
Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says
#417By far the biggest factor that had me stopping checking Facebook, and indeed LinkedIn, is number of utterly fictitious notifications they generate. There was a time a few years back when that red dot made me drop everything to check FB, but these days it’ll be some completely bullshit message they’ve made a notification out of. Feels like they got greedy for my attention and killed the golden goose there. I check it…
They are making sure to give you red dots/numbers multiple times per day, if you login multiple times per day.
It's usually stuff like "X posted something after a long while of not posting" or "Y will participate in an event near you". Utterly useless notifications about people I don't interact with.
This is a mixture of bad UX and dark UX patterns. They are puppeteering a corpse here.
Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says
#418By far the biggest factor that had me stopping checking Facebook, and indeed LinkedIn, is number of utterly fictitious notifications they generate. There was a time a few years back when that red dot made me drop everything to check FB, but these days it’ll be some completely bullshit message they’ve made a notification out of. Feels like they got greedy for my attention and killed the golden goose there. I check it…
Twitter has started to do that too. Notifications went from focussing on significant interactions — such as someone liking or retweeting a tweet, or following you — to 'someone you follow just tweeted' — what's the point of that notification? It's happening all the time! Notifications get devalued as companies desperately try to promote their product.
That has resulted in me disabling notifications and now I won't know if someone @me or responded to a tweet.
Those useless notifications made the whole product useless for me.
Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says
#419By far the biggest factor that had me stopping checking Facebook, and indeed LinkedIn, is number of utterly fictitious notifications they generate. There was a time a few years back when that red dot made me drop everything to check FB, but these days it’ll be some completely bullshit message they’ve made a notification out of. Feels like they got greedy for my attention and killed the golden goose there. I check it…
I started like you, last year... then a couple days ago realized I hadn't checked it since mid January. And we're on March, that's a new record. I'm not in the "I'm leaving Facebook once and for all", actually I don't have that intention whatsoever, I am (was) a normal, active user. But it stopped being interesting. The kind of interaction Fb promotes is similar to twitter; in the first years I could see my friends s…
I didn't know about mbasic and chat working. Thanks.
I'm also deleting as many apps as possible. Even Instagram works quite well without the app. Less uncontrollable spying, less battery usage, no annoying notifications, more free memory, more blocked ads and trackers.
Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says
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Lots of things changed. Facebook began as an exclusive social network for upper-class students. Gradually it grew to encompass not just all of America, but the entire world. It turns out, many of us well educated people don't really want to network or socialize with poorly educated people. Police started monitoring our activities, so the events all but disappeared. The world changed, too. Facts used to matter; we rea…
I'm not even sure how to properly characterize how condescendingly out of touch your comment is. I was on Facebook before it opened to the general public, and it wasn't some ivory tower of intelligent thought where the educated could avoid mingling with the dumb. It was full of stupid social media stuff then too. After Facebook opened up, my "poorly educated" uncle was content using Facebook to simply socialize with…
In the first year or two of Facebook, it was basically just students from the highest ranked / most expensive schools in the US. Part of the allure was the way they rolled that out, like an exclusive club. At the time, I don’t believe features like content previews existed - people weren’t sharing news articles much. It was more “social” and less “media”.
Is it condescending to acknowledge that it was a network for a fairly elite group of young people to start, and that it lost appeal when it became for everyone? Of course there wasn’t much intelligent discussion, everyone was under 25. But it was part tinder, part aim / livejournal, part social calendar; I don’t think it’s been those things for many years now.