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Re: Re-entry to US without backscatter or pat-down

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Post by AndrewS »

Eil wrote: post #34

I agree entirely with the author's cause and I believe that the guilty-until-proven-innocent mindset of present airport security is wrong and should be unconstitutional. However, upon reading the article I very much got the impression that the author was refusing to be scanned or searched just to make trouble. When asked why he was refusing to be searched, his answers (in his own writing) seemed to be along the lines…

I don't agree with Eil's comment at all, but that is no reason to vote his comment down. Comment voting is to make interesting comments more prominent and to remove noise, not to banish unpopular opinions. I don't interpret Eil's comment as a trolling attempt that warrents down-voting either.

Re: Re-entry to US without backscatter or pat-down

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Post by teralaser »

swombat wrote: post #9

In the 1500's a man called Étienne de la Boétie wrote, in a then-inflammatory "Discourse on Voluntary Servitude": Obviously there is no need of fighting to overcome this single tyrant, for he is automatically defeated if the country refuses consent to its own enslavement: it is not necessary to deprive him of anything, but simply to give him nothing; there is no need that the country make an effort to do anything for…

LA Times, 2010: "Shut up and be scanned". LA Times, 1942 "shut up and go to your internment camp"

http://www.theagitator.com/2010/11/22/shut-up-and-be-scanned...

Re: Re-entry to US without backscatter or pat-down

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Post by uptown »

param wrote: post #2

What? I wasn't aware you needed to be irradiated just to enter into the US, even without planning to take any more flights. What is the rationale behind that?

"I wasn't aware you needed to be irradiated just to enter into the US ... What is the rationale behind that?"

It's the end-run around the forthcoming tidal wave of baby-boomer retirees that stand to eviscerate Social Security. Throw some radiation & cancer into the mix, and you maybe they can shave off enough years of longevity to keep things solvent.

Re: Re-entry to US without backscatter or pat-down

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Post by uptown »

techiferous wrote: post #89

If you do not like the TSA's policies, please take a moment to write your representatives: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml http://www.senate.gov/reference/common/faq/How_to_contact_se...

You're aware that our representatives aren't required to pass through these sensors, aren't you?

Re: Re-entry to US without backscatter or pat-down

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Post by frossie »

dnsworks wrote: post #81

I'm curious if any lawyers from the EFF have put themselves through this so that they have good grounds to sue the federal government for violation of constitutional rights?

I suspect you are thinking of EPIC - http://epic.org/ which has indeed filed a lawsuit - I don't see how this is EFF purview.

Re: Re-entry to US without backscatter or pat-down

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Post by LiveTheDream »

I'm surprised there wasn't a big fuss about the audio recording. Just one person asking if there was video being recorded, and a lot of people not wanting to make declarative statements on record.

Does this mean that officials have accepted the fact that citizens can legally record them performing their duties?

Re: Re-entry to US without backscatter or pat-down

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Post by olefoo »

andreyf wrote: post #101
acabal wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A nice quote, but we've already given the TSA a lot. Now it's a fight to get it back. Hopefully it's not too late.

The TSA is obviously staffed by bureaucrats who are simply following bad rules. This should call for a restructuring of the organization, not a lash out against The TSA or (worse) The Government. Let's figure out what is wrong with the process, and how we can fix it. Enough being scared and pointing blame.

How about disbanding it as a waste of tax money, and as an unnecessary institution ill-suited to being part of a society dedicated to the idea of individual liberties?
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