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Prototype iPhones That Hackers Use to Research Apple’s Most Sensitive Code

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Re: Prototype iPhones That Hackers Use to Research Apple’s Most Sensitive Code

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How about PurpleRestore? :) I binge-read all of luna and the "other" internal wiki back in the day. :)

PurpleRestore will refuse to work unless you have valid AppleConnect credentials, AFAIK.

I loved PurpleRestore and never would have wanted to go back to the iTunes way of managing my device.

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PurpleRestore will refuse to work unless you have valid AppleConnect credentials, AFAIK.

I loved PurpleRestore and never would have wanted to go back to the iTunes way of managing my device.

Alas, such is the life of those not blessed with Apple Internal tools…

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I loved PurpleRestore and never would have wanted to go back to the iTunes way of managing my device.

Alas, such is the life of those not blessed with Apple Internal tools…

Do you work for Apple?

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Thanks for clarifying, I figured I was generalizing it a bit.

To be honest, I think the daily builds are signed by B&I as well, so you can install them on production hardware provided you have valid AppleConnect credentials (which I think just authorizes the install). You just won't be able to debug the kernel, etc.

Not true, and just more complex in general.

EDIT: I just looked at some of your other comments. I think you mean well and have some impressive knowledge for someone not working on those things, but some of it is also guesswork about very complex details that even internal people can get wrong, so I think publicly claiming conjecture as if it were fact is more misleading than you mean it to be.

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To be honest, I think the daily builds are signed by B&I as well, so you can install them on production hardware provided you have valid AppleConnect credentials (which I think just authorizes the install). You just won't be able to debug the kernel, etc.

Not true, and just more complex in general. EDIT: I just looked at some of your other comments. I think you mean well and have some impressive knowledge for someone not working on those things, but some of it is also guesswork about very complex details that even internal people can get wrong, so I think publicly claiming conjecture as if it were fact is more misleading than you mean it to be.

I'm mostly basing my comments on my knowledge of what the jailbreak community has made public so mistakes are likely me misremembering or not fully understanding something. Is there something in particular that I got wrong?

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It could be more nuanced than that. Some Chinese manufacturers have been known to have a "night shift." Which is to say that during the day they produce a manufacturer's products, and during the night they produce an off-label or unauthorised version. These phones all had Foxconn labels on them, there was no Apple branding or logos. It is possible they were unauthorized but not "stolen." As I said, it is a nuance, an…

That doesn't really work for Apple products because they require unique components (like the SoC) that can't be bought anywhere and presumably the inventory is tracked carefully (e.g. 10,000 A12s go into the factory and ~10,000 iPhones go out).

What about iPhones that "failed" QC?

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> The phone boots into an operating system known as “Switchboard,” which has a no-nonsense black background and is intended for testing different functionalities on the phone. I think the article confuses the meaning of "dev-fused" hardware, with what OS is actually installed on the phone. When I used to work at Apple, I always understood "dev-fused" to mean a device on which you could install unsigned builds of iOS.…

How about PurpleRestore? :) I binge-read all of luna and the "other" internal wiki back in the day. :)

I love doing this occasionally, its just really interesting seeing the internal tools.

Is there any videos/screenshots of PurpleRestore and similar tools? I've searched and can only find a single picture and descriptions.

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How about PurpleRestore? :) I binge-read all of luna and the "other" internal wiki back in the day. :)

I love doing this occasionally, its just really interesting seeing the internal tools. Is there any videos/screenshots of PurpleRestore and similar tools? I've searched and can only find a single picture and descriptions.

Same here, that's why I sometimes wish I had saved some screenshots for my own use or even for sharing but I have a feeling Apple would have hunted me down for it. That's probably why we don't see so many of them in the wild. Even in the orientation you'll hear stories about how seriously they take their ability to surprise and delight, with an emphasis on the surprise. :)

The best source I can find was this: https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Apple_Internal_Apps

With this fascinating discussion of Apple insiders talking about exactly the same apprehension imprinted in their minds: https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Talk:Apple_Internal_Apps

Here are some things I remember:

The "purple" series of tools are basically for managing dev-fused iPhones https://www.betaarchive.com/imageupload/2017-02/1487521492.o...

I also remember there being two internal wikis for development and having access to both. Maybe one is called luna and the other is just straight out called purple?

You get root on the device simply by authenticating as root with password alpine. Sometimes you'll get your hands on iDevices with weird specs like 3.75GB of RAM etc.

There is also AppleConnect which is Apple's internal single-sign on.

What I find fascinating the most is honestly how I am unable to find recent screenshots of these software. They are all screenshots of really old versions with outdated UI.

Apple must have a special way of taking these down or doing offensive-SEO and burying them in results because while I was able to find search results for "apple luna internal wiki", I am no longer able to.

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Mathew Solnik is not impressed, full text: "The article that has been published regarding me is a complete hit piece. It provides no hard evidence and is based on pure rumor. It’s sad to see the publication stope to such levels. This is not worth any further response and will get none. End of Story." https://twitter.com/msolnik/status/1103395763068043264

No hard evidence of what exactly? His reply doesn’t make much sense. Other than maybe he doesn’t think it looks flattering when you’re abruptly let go from 2 jobs and your consulting venture doesn’t pan out.

This is pretty silly. Solnik could probably get drunk, spin round in a circle 100 times quickly, and fall ass-backwards into better consulting gigs than almost anyone on HN.
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