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Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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The headline and article are both misleading. EY never reported they cracked the encryption on the laptop or recovered any private keys to the so-called cold wallets.

Six empty cold wallet addresses were disclosed by Quadriga, and for the most part they look to have been unused for the last year. EY is investigating some other potential addresses which are also empty.

Source: https://documentcentre.eycan.com/eycm_library/Quadriga%20Fin...

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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My take on this is that they probably were insolvent for a long time already due to previous hacks/theft. The CEO just decided to lie about the supposedly 137M in funds 'safely' stored on his laptop. This is also what happened at MtGox, except that at MtGox they 'lost' wel over a million BTC. Edit: relevant listening: https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/9/

Insolvent sounds right, but wouldn't you have, say $10M or so, reserved for the getaway? Once it's that low, the jig is up, so you may as well abscond with the last bit.

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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Based on what I've read, the NSA and other white-hat organizations have access to 0-days or have discovered 0-days that can crack these things but they're not released to the public or if they are, they're released years later.

> the NSA and other white-hat organizations First time I hear NSA grouped with white-hats. What definition would permit this categorization?

The NSA wears two hats, one for each head. [0] The white hat secures government communication, prevents industrial espionage, hardens national infrastructure and collaborates on FIPS and other standards. The black hat eavesdrops on foreign government communication, conducts mass surveillance, hacks national infrastructure and backdoors FIPS and other standards.

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency#Missi... NSA's eavesdropping mission includes radio broadcasting, both from various organizations and individuals, the Internet, telephone calls, and other intercepted forms of communication. Its secure communications mission includes military, diplomatic, and all other sensitive, confidential or secret government communications.[51]

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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This article is innaccurate. Here is the tracking by Ernst & Young (court-appointed) providing all the public information about these developments. The latest report on 1 March 2019 mentions nothing about a cracked laptop. https://documentcentre.eycan.com/Pages/Main.aspx?SID=1445

There's nothing wrong with the article. The March Report merely says they were able to recover the cold storage wallets and discovered they were empty; it doesn't go into how they got access to those wallets since that isn't relevant to the report. Per the company and prior news reporting, those cold storage wallets discussed in the March Report were only stored on the owner's laptop, which was previously inaccessibl…

>The fact that they were able to access those wallets means they "cracked" the security measures on that laptop

Incorrect. Experts were able to trace funds back to the cold storage wallets addresses using analysis. But the private keys have not been located and no, the laptop has not been "cracked".

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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For some reason this sounds like the plot of a movie starring Leonardo DiCaprio. CEO of Crypto Company... 1) Takes time off to build orphanage in region noted for fake deaths. 2) Subsequently dies unexpectedly. 3) Is immediately cremated. 4) Wife waits a month before saying "oh by the way he is dead" 5) Wife claims all keys on encrypted laptop 6) World watches as wallets mysteriously empty 7) Experts crack laptop 8)…

And the widow is left with just the 17 properties, 2 cars, yacht and plane that he earned through honest hard work. Another thing you could work into the plot is $9m appears to be with WB21 "Banking Redefined" which claimed a million users but was discovered to only have 135 downloads of its app (now removed), is run by a convicted fraudster and was awarded "Global Banker Award 2018" in a black tie ceremony that they…

Sounds like typical stuff for the cryptocurrency world.

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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DiCaprio? This whole affair has been at best a Weekend at Bernie's-level plot. The accounts were emptied 8 months before the death, and yet QCX pretended they were solvent the whole time so they could keep the party going.

DiCaprio? This whole affair has been at best a Weekend at Bernie's-level plot. I think it would be best done with the production values of "Catch Me If You Can."

Crypto me outside

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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Perhaps blockchains’ lasting impact will be as an overused plot device in future period pieces set in the early 21st century.

And making blockchain to SQL Server migration consultants wealthy too.

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Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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This is an enterprise solution. Oracle is even better.

cosmos db is where it is at

I can't believe y'all aren't taking advantage of using MongoDB's data loss feature as an opportunity here in true HN taste.

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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And this is the problem. These guys are not regulated. There is no transparency. There are no external auditors. There is no control. When we find out, it is always too late. Every "cryptocurrency bank" is a potential Enron. I fear both the involvement of Central Banks and at the same time the lack of it. If EY (or anyone else serious about this) 'follows the money' then that would be a very interesting report to rea…

> These guys are not regulated. There is no transparency. There are no external auditors. There is no control. But that's a feature, not a bug, at least according to the crypto people. But, so far, all they have managed to do is rediscover lessons about the need for regulation, oversight and accountability that the financial industry has learnt decades or even centuries ago.

It's comical.

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

#190
post #48

My take on this is that they probably were insolvent for a long time already due to previous hacks/theft. The CEO just decided to lie about the supposedly 137M in funds 'safely' stored on his laptop. This is also what happened at MtGox, except that at MtGox they 'lost' wel over a million BTC. Edit: relevant listening: https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/9/

And this is the problem. These guys are not regulated. There is no transparency. There are no external auditors. There is no control. When we find out, it is always too late. Every "cryptocurrency bank" is a potential Enron. I fear both the involvement of Central Banks and at the same time the lack of it. If EY (or anyone else serious about this) 'follows the money' then that would be a very interesting report to rea…

This would seem to be a private problem. If people choose to park their money with a non-transparent, unaudited random crypto startup, that's their decision and their problem. I'm not interested in paying for "regulators" in such cases.
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