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U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by stcredzero »

kojackst wrote: post #10

Note: personal opinion bellow It seems to me that the overall interest in Facebook is decreasing. The social network hasn't had any interesting feature added to it in the last couple of years. It's becoming boring and boring, so that's why I believe people are leaving. Still, Instagram and WhatsApp are running strong with barely no competition. We don't see any news about their user base decreasing and news channels…

It's becoming boring and boring, so that's why I believe people are leaving.

The problem with Facebook, is that either it's boring, or it's not boring, and in that case it's often far worse. Facebook latched onto the fact that outrage measures as "engagement" then other people latched onto that fact and started to use Facebook for their own outrage mongering purposes.

Still, Instagram and WhatsApp are running strong with barely no competition. We don't see any news about their user base decreasing and news channels don't seem to dislike them. Facebook is doing a good job making sure their biggest three platforms are seem as independent from one another, keeping Instagram and WhatsApp almost free from controversy.

So one company, three brands?

If I were to start my own crowdfunding app, I'd have one app with three "skins" and three different brands, each a different level of "edginess." In the Terms of Service would be the discretion for the site to "shift" your account from one of the three to another. The only effect of this, would be to shift the public information around the creator and subscriptions from one site to another. I would do this, so that "maintaining our brand" would never become an issue in funding creators, even edgy or downright controversial ones.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by JohnFen »

Leace wrote: post #16
JohnFen wrote: post #11

I'm not sure losing that age group has much to do with Facebook's scandals. This is purely anecdotal, but with my daughter and her social group, Facebook stopped being a service of interest to them quite a while back. Not because of data issues, but because (to use my daughter's words) "Facebook is for businesses and old people".

What does your daughter use to connect with friends? Just curious.

> What does your daughter use to connect with friends?

Steam and SMS, primarily. WhatsApp, too, but to a lesser degree.

And, probably, something else that I'm not aware of.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by atwebb »

ryanianian wrote: post #74

I live in a somewhat large gated community that has a pretty active facebook group. The group is somewhat loosely moderated by the HOA (for better or worse) so in general people stay on-topic and neighborly. It's great for asking for recommended contractors, asking if somebody has a thing they can borrow, etc. This is one of the few things that keeps me on facebook. Of course facebook is a terrible venue for this gro…

Nextdoor really needs to get it's act together on siloing neighborhood discussions, it's basically built for this.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by jessaustin »

oooooooooo000 wrote: post #55
rhcom2 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slightly pedantic but Facebook Marketplace was launched in 2016 so the point could still stand.

The point doesn't still stand, but I'll save you all the googling: FB launched Watch on August 9, 2017. You could also say "only in the last year" and it'd be easy to find something else with 2 minutes of googling.

Oh Zuck, don't feel bad. You still have lots of money and a beautiful family.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by barbecue_sauce »

oooooooooo000 wrote: post #55
rhcom2 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slightly pedantic but Facebook Marketplace was launched in 2016 so the point could still stand.

The point doesn't still stand, but I'll save you all the googling: FB launched Watch on August 9, 2017. You could also say "only in the last year" and it'd be easy to find something else with 2 minutes of googling.

He said interesting feature.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by throwawaymath »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #67
socrates1998 wrote: post #27

Anecdotally, I work with teenagers and none of them have a Facebook pages. It's viewed as a place for old people and parents. For me personally, it's almost impossible to deal with. Way too many political posts from my friends and family. It's probably best use for me is local events and an occasional major event from a friend/family member. Still, I find myself going there less and less. From a small business standp…

> I would gladly pay $5-$10 a month for something that didn't sell my data. Hmm. Facebook has something like 2 billion profiles. Of course, most of them wouldn't pay $5/month - say that only one percent would. 20 million profiles times $5/month = $100 million/month. It might be worth it for someone to try to build such a thing...

I’d be beyond shocked if even one percent of all Facebook users would pay $5/month for it. I think the only population of users who’d consider doing so are the intersection of those who are affluent (by Western standards), are extremely opposed to Facebook ads, and use it enough to consider paying for it.

I’d be surprised if you could get 1% of the US population of users to consider it, let alone the global population. You’d realistically be looking at single to very low double digit millions of users at the maximum.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by pjc50 »

socrates1998 wrote: post #27

Anecdotally, I work with teenagers and none of them have a Facebook pages. It's viewed as a place for old people and parents. For me personally, it's almost impossible to deal with. Way too many political posts from my friends and family. It's probably best use for me is local events and an occasional major event from a friend/family member. Still, I find myself going there less and less. From a small business standp…

The politics has destroyed the friendliness. Same goes for Twitter, to some extent; even for us political junkies. The constant drip of miserable stupidity of others is just exhausting.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by ilovecaching »

socrates1998 wrote: post #27

Anecdotally, I work with teenagers and none of them have a Facebook pages. It's viewed as a place for old people and parents. For me personally, it's almost impossible to deal with. Way too many political posts from my friends and family. It's probably best use for me is local events and an occasional major event from a friend/family member. Still, I find myself going there less and less. From a small business standp…

The problem with the non ad driven model is that to you 5$ might be nothing, but some people 5$ is an impossible sum of money to spend a month on entertainment. Ads allow companies to offer first world products to customers who could desperately use technology to help them connect and trade in their local communities.

I think the discussion on privacy and ad based platforms should really be orthogonal.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by nabla9 »

DeonPenny wrote: post #82

They are going to Instagram though. Thats one of facebook smartest move. Buying all the other social media sites.

This is also one of the biggest failures of the modern antitrust law.

If giants like FB can't innovate and must buy competition to survive despite all the advantages they have, something is wrong.

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