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Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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Post by jjeaff » Wed, Mar 06, 2019, 9:59 PM UTC

godelski wrote: post #36

whoisjuan wrote: post #16

This guy is alive (or dead, but not due to Crohn's Disease complications, as stated initially). This is not a conspiracy theory anymore. It's clear there's a massive fraud behind all these events.

You can still commit fraud and die of Crohn's Disease. I'd still call this a conspiracy theory (I'll also say that "conspiracy theory" doesn't mean untrue, though we tend to use it as a substitute for "crack pot"). But to quote Sagan "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." I do agree with this part: > It's clear there's a massive fraud But that doesn't mean he's alive or that there was a coverup in his…

Definitely still a conspiracy theory. But I think that all the circumstances bring it out if range of "crackpot".

A will being created right before the trip also adds to the suspicions.

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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Post by Shorel » Wed, Mar 06, 2019, 10:05 PM UTC

According to the dates and other information in the article, it is also possible he was hacked and someone else has the money.

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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Post by thaumasiotes » Wed, Mar 06, 2019, 10:06 PM UTC

stingraycharles wrote: post #20

omouse wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are bitcoin tumblers , essentially the idea is to split up the transaction into multiple transactions of varying sizes to various addresses and to keep doing that in such a way that it doesn't look weird... Basically they try to hide the transaction among the huge volume of transactions going on, kinda like a VPN or Tor?

It’s important to note that it’s not just splitting up your own transactions, it’s that it’s actually other people’s coins that end up in your destination wallets. As such, it becomes very difficult to trace: techniques for doing this are similar to large scale deanonimization of Tor traffic, and involve large scale pattern analysis.

> It’s important to note that it’s not just splitting up your own transactions, it’s that it’s actually other people’s coins that end up in your destination wallets. As such, it becomes very difficult to trace

It was my basically uninformed impression that the bitcoin blockchain consists of a series of transaction records that look like this:

- Address xxxxx1x sends 10 bitcoins to address xxxxx2x; address xxxxx7x mints 25 bitcoins

That is to say, the records show that balances increase and decrease, but there is no actual concept of a uniquely identifiable bitcoin (with, say, a serial number) -- there are only balances held by accounts. On this model, it isn't possible to say that other people's coins end up in your destination wallets. Is that not accurate?

(The fact that you can divide one bitcoin into 100,000,000 satoshi also suggests that there's no such thing as an individual bitcoin...)

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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Post by CosmicShadow » Wed, Mar 06, 2019, 10:14 PM UTC

jjoonathan wrote: post #66

stuntkite wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the sequel his ghost solves blocks when you play a latin rhythm and two young/broke computer enthusiasts who moved to Puerto Rico to make it big are the only ones who can see him because they smoked weed that grew in soil mixed with his ashes.

They should make that one first, because unlike the documentary I'd actually pay to see it.

Harold & Kumar go Crypto

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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Post by whttheuuu » Wed, Mar 06, 2019, 10:14 PM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #72

xutopia wrote: post #68

This is BS... the money cannot be "gone"... what do they mean by that? There is a public ledger. We would know and can trace where this money went to. Do they mean the wallet was not on the laptop instead?

If the keys are lost, the money is for all intents and purposes gone.

it's a feature of the blockchain that you can track each and every transaction.

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Post by TrevorJ » Wed, Mar 06, 2019, 10:15 PM UTC

selimthegrim wrote: post #63

drewblaisdell wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> region noted for fake deaths There is a place that is known for this specifically? Where can I read more about this?

There are several documentaries on YouTube exploring how easy it is to fake death certificates in, say, Delhi. Search for ‘quacks’

didn't initially get in hits for that search term that were relevant, what am I looking for?

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Post by zaphirplane » Wed, Mar 06, 2019, 10:15 PM UTC

glitch003 wrote: post #73

samfisher83 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is even if someone has your password there are legal routes where you can go recover your money. The bank will then do that. The blockchain is distributed. Who do you go complain to?

That's the whole point of the blockchain. Your money is sovereign. There is nobody to call when it gets stolen, but this also means that no government or bank or agency can take your money or prevent you from being paid (see Visa/Mastercard vs Wikileaks etc)

Not true, an entity with control of >50% of the pool can. I thought such a pool exists

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Post by tromp » Wed, Mar 06, 2019, 10:16 PM UTC

covercash wrote: post #32

whoisjuan wrote: post #16

This guy is alive (or dead, but not due to Crohn's Disease complications, as stated initially). This is not a conspiracy theory anymore. It's clear there's a massive fraud behind all these events.

As a mod for r/CrohnsDisease, it really sucks that this is how most people are first hearing about the disease. Those with IBD already have a difficult time with people not believing they’re sick or that symptoms aren’t that bad since they’re not visible. Now Crohn’s will be associated with this fool using it as an excuse to steal a bunch of money... such a huge disappointment.

TIL that IBD can mean Inflammatory Bowel Diseases as well as Initial Block Download.

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Post by mv4 » Wed, Mar 06, 2019, 10:16 PM UTC

harrumph wrote: post #70

"Why yes, the wallet we found was empty. Totally empty."

Back in 2015 two rogue U.S. Secret Service agents, Shaun Bridges and Carl Mark Force, were caught and sentenced to prison for stealing funds while investigating the first high profile darknet market the Silk Road. Shaun Bridges plead guilty for moving 1,600 bitcoins of seized bitcoins confiscated by federal authorities.

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Post by whttheuuu » Wed, Mar 06, 2019, 10:16 PM UTC

samfisher83 wrote: post #29

People might complain about banks, but when you have cases of fraud at least you have people try to recover it. Government makes you keep pretty good records. In this case how do you undo the blockchain? In this case what recourse do you have.

actually, the entire point of blockchain is that the ledger is public. every movement of each and every bitcoin is public and can be tracked. it just takes time to analyze.