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Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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People might complain about banks, but when you have cases of fraud at least you have people try to recover it. Government makes you keep pretty good records. In this case how do you undo the blockchain? In this case what recourse do you have.

blockchain != exchanges holding your private keys

My point is even if someone has your password there are legal routes where you can go recover your money. The bank will then do that. The blockchain is distributed. Who do you go complain to?

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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post #3

For some reason this sounds like the plot of a movie starring Leonardo DiCaprio. CEO of Crypto Company... 1) Takes time off to build orphanage in region noted for fake deaths. 2) Subsequently dies unexpectedly. 3) Is immediately cremated. 4) Wife waits a month before saying "oh by the way he is dead" 5) Wife claims all keys on encrypted laptop 6) World watches as wallets mysteriously empty 7) Experts crack laptop 8)…

Great summary, thanks, that was genuinely helpful.

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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post #3

For some reason this sounds like the plot of a movie starring Leonardo DiCaprio. CEO of Crypto Company... 1) Takes time off to build orphanage in region noted for fake deaths. 2) Subsequently dies unexpectedly. 3) Is immediately cremated. 4) Wife waits a month before saying "oh by the way he is dead" 5) Wife claims all keys on encrypted laptop 6) World watches as wallets mysteriously empty 7) Experts crack laptop 8)…

> region noted for fake deaths There is a place that is known for this specifically? Where can I read more about this?

There are several documentaries on YouTube exploring how easy it is to fake death certificates in, say, Delhi. Search for ‘quacks’

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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post #12

> The investigators said they found other issues too, such as that Quadriga kept "limited books and records" and never reported its financials. New SaaS idea: Skin Lotus 1-2-3 and sell it as a "decentralized on-premise bookkeeping solution for your blockchain"

Blockchains are already a decentralized ledger and it's a bit more than just a re-skin given eventual but not necessarily immediate consistency. Presumably the missing books, records and financials consisted of the more mundane sort that regular Lotus 1-2-3 could have helped these embezzlers, were they not embezzlers.

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

#65
One real problem with cryptocurrencies: the information you need to determine that someone has the key to a blockchain address gives you the power to withdraw funds from that address. You can't just demand that a third party auditor have copies of all the keys.

(Yeah, dual-sig, split keys, etc. Theoretically possible, not done in practice much.)

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DiCaprio? This whole affair has been at best a Weekend at Bernie's-level plot. The accounts were emptied 8 months before the death, and yet QCX pretended they were solvent the whole time so they could keep the party going.

In the sequel his ghost solves blocks when you play a latin rhythm and two young/broke computer enthusiasts who moved to Puerto Rico to make it big are the only ones who can see him because they smoked weed that grew in soil mixed with his ashes.

They should make that one first, because unlike the documentary I'd actually pay to see it.

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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post #48

My take on this is that they probably were insolvent for a long time already due to previous hacks/theft. The CEO just decided to lie about the supposedly 137M in funds 'safely' stored on his laptop. This is also what happened at MtGox, except that at MtGox they 'lost' wel over a million BTC. Edit: relevant listening: https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/9/

> at MtGox they 'lost' wel over a million BTC.

The initial report was 850 000 lost BTC which later was brought down to 650 000. Scroll to the end of https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140320-btc-announce.pdf

Re: Experts cracked laptop of crypto CEO who died with $137M, but the money was gone

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post #65

One real problem with cryptocurrencies: the information you need to determine that someone has the key to a blockchain address gives you the power to withdraw funds from that address. You can't just demand that a third party auditor have copies of all the keys. (Yeah, dual-sig, split keys, etc. Theoretically possible, not done in practice much.)

False. See cryptographic signing. A keyholder can sign a message with a private key, proving they possess the key, without exposing the key itself.
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