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On Tolstoy's “War and Peace”

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Re: On Tolstoy's “War and Peace”

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I do think though Russians do get a bit too much press for their novels, in a way that isn't, I think accorded to the French. For example dealing with events from the same period of time is Hugo's "Les Miserables" (it has a description of the battle of Waterloo lasting around 12 chapters), perhaps captures more of the variety of human experience.

I haven’t read Les Miserables. I’m sure its great. But depicting battles scenes is not what makes W&P, W&P.

12 chapters of Waterloo for waterloo’s sake is meaningless.

Re: On Tolstoy's “War and Peace”

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"General Pfühl attributes every loss to the failure to carry out his orders to the letter, and since such precision is never possible in battle, he can always argue that, just as he predicted". I think this is a great insight that can benefit both the left and the right wings. From the left we've heard many times how actual communism was never achieved and each failure (such as Mao China or Soviet Russia) proved the point that the theory WOULD work if done differently. But another implementation brought different contingencies again ending in casualties, but the theory WOULD work etc. etc. Sadly, we hear a lot of the same about free market, Michel Foucault in The Birth of Biopolitics argued that neo-liberal economics tend to "naturalize" the theory using the scientific discourse, so if, for example, the banks fail it's because there's still too much government control, if liberated from the welfare state mentality the supply and demand and the competitive market would come to a balance. Milton Friedman, probably one of the gurus of the free market based a lot on mathematical formulas, but it's an open question if physics or mathematics can be applied to criticize social structures and predict development?

Re: On Tolstoy's “War and Peace”

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I liked this quote from Tolstoy: > That saying is strikingly true not only of art but of all life. One may say that true life begins where the tiny bit begins—where what seem to us minute and infinitely small alterations take place. True life is not lived where great external changes take place—where people move about, clash, fight, and slay one another—it is lived only where these tiny, tiny, infinitesimally small changes occur.

It reminds me of some words from another, more recent, visionary: "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

(though some investigation shows this quote originates from before Lennon)

Re: On Tolstoy's “War and Peace”

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post #8

The claim “often regarded as the greatest of all novels” right in the opening is so hyperbolically naive and unmatched by the general level of the piece that one wonders if some marketing person added it to boost up the clicks. Even if one adopts the mundane definition of topping all time greatest lists put together by various organizations, I still think this would apply to War and Peace, as commented here Anna Kare…

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Re: On Tolstoy's “War and Peace”

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Lesser known fact: the original title of “War and Peace” was “War: what is it good for?”, but Tolstoy’s mistress forced him to change it to the one we know today. The original title was then used in the famous Edwin Starr song. Source: Seinfeld.

That was a (lame) joke.

Re: On Tolstoy's “War and Peace”

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Please resist the temptation of the hyperbolic title (which we've changed above). Comments on the shallowest thing in an article only lead to shallow discussion.

The article contains many subtleties and interesting observations. Comments on those, or ones of your own, will make for a much better thread.

Re: On Tolstoy's “War and Peace”

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I do think though Russians do get a bit too much press for their novels, in a way that isn't, I think accorded to the French. For example dealing with events from the same period of time is Hugo's "Les Miserables" (it has a description of the battle of Waterloo lasting around 12 chapters), perhaps captures more of the variety of human experience.

> Russians do get a bit too much press for their novels

Russians get a bit too much press for most everything, from nukes to unstoppable social progress to foreign election meddling.

Curiously, but possibly related, not for https://www.google.com/search?q=largest+country+on+earth

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