A lengthy article with no mention of meta-data. And this is where the key is, Facebook has realised that they don't need to track you around the internet.
People give Facebook the data it needs by contacting businesses on WhatsApp. Someone who has contacted a bike shop is of course interested in bikes.
A Privacy-Focused Vision for Social Networking
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#32With a title like that I expected a link to an Onion article.
You're getting downvoted, but I for one thought that was spot on :)
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#33Could some kind soul with enough genuine interest slog through this monster and post a few-sentence summary?
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#34> Over the next year and beyond, there are a lot more details and tradeoffs to work through related to each of these principles. A lot of this work is in the early stages, and we are committed to consulting with experts, advocates, industry partners, and governments -- including law enforcement and regulators -- around the world to get these decisions right.
Translation: we want to head off regulation by giving empty assurances to lawmakers that we're working on the problem, but we plan to slow walk this so we can continue business-as-usual for the foreseeable future.
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I'm sure I said plenty of dumb things when I was a teenager. There has to be a statute of limitations on these things.
Are you now the CEO of a publicly traded company, making statements about privacy directly to the people you insulted previously, without even addressing the horrible insults you stated previously?
> There has to be a statute of limitations on these things.
On what things? How? Directly insulting someone, and then just ignoring that you did it - while asking for their trust, which you previously said someone was a "dumb fuck" for giving - isn't something people are going to forget out of politeness for some "statute of limitations".
And lol, I just asked for an apology, not for him to be in prison or something. It's for his benefit - I'm offering some advice: if he wants trust, the place he has to start is by apologizing and asking for forgiveness first. Nothing else will mean anything.
If Mark wants more money, and he wants trust to get there, he should apologize clearly and explain why he has changed. He should also demonstrate that Facebook is willing to - and will carry out - changing incentives to align to privacy.
Step 1: Apologize
Step 2: Offer a real change.
Neither is happening.
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I'm sure I said plenty of dumb things when I was a teenager. There has to be a statute of limitations on these things.
And yet we question if MZ ever actually grew up -- he was thrown into a world he did not understand with millions and billions of dollars. I don't believed he has changed, and I don't believe facebookers who are programmed to elicit this response to this talking point. Its so much more than a throw away comment, it speaks to his entire strategy for privacy and respect for users/society, both then, and now.
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#37When I saw the headline, at first I thought it was an old article that you can read in a different light and have a laugh.
Writing it now is just obnoxious. A lot of text with no meaningful content, mentioning a bunch of problems without offering solutions and without taking any responsibility.
Don't talk about "people prefer", "people expect", "working towards" and "we as a society" - you created this. With all of its problems, and all of the ethical and legal violations. You did things this way because it was extremely profitable and you are still doing it.
How does anyone take him seriously at this point?
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#38This isn't just a humanitarian gesture by Zuckerberg; this is a move to address an existential threat to Facebook. The writing has been on the wall for years: teens don't use Facebook. Instead of letting go of the social feed and the unified social platform vision, Facebook has just piled more crap onto the platform by buying competitors or just building out their features. The result is the overloaded, overfeatured Facebook with no actual social interaction we know today.
Teens know that they could easily become the next victim of the national outrage and humiliation machine. They never wanted to share their fun with grandma and their future employers. They don't want to be their own PR agent and cultivate an online persona. They want to experiment, express themselves freely with no repercussions, do stupid shit and face no consequences; in other words, have the same childhood everyone had before the internet came around. The content you see on Snapchat and Instagram reflects that: is not designed for permanency, it's not meant for adults, it's not meant for Facebook. What Mark is saying here is that he recognizes that reality, and hopefully will begin to tear down the old Facebook infrastructure.
Social media is the business of cool, and Facebook today is currently more GE than startup. If Zuckerberg is going to deliver this vision, he is going to need to let go of a lot of things that Facebook built over the years and maybe even start from the ground up.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sure I said plenty of dumb things when I was a teenager. There has to be a statute of limitations on these things.
Are you now the CEO of a publicly traded company, making statements about privacy directly to the people you insulted previously, without even addressing the horrible insults you stated previously? > There has to be a statute of limitations on these things. On what things? How? Directly insulting someone, and then just ignoring that you did it - while asking for their trust, which you previously said someone was a "d…
>making statements about privacy directly to the people you insulted previously
I'm sure those kids from Harvard have gotten over it by now.
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#40Let's say Facebook actually pulls this off. They deliver a privacy-focused social media platform. It's used by billions of people, daily.
How do they make money off it? If everything is encrypted, they cannot have targeted ads. They can't read the data to push ads for different demographics.
Personally, I think a (more) private social network is a great idea. But I don't see how Facebook's financial incentives align with whatever this is.