UK's insistence on keeping daylight savings is disappointing to say the least
European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings
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Re: European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings
#222A change which may be rational closer to the equator, but which makes less sense in Edinburgh or further north surely?
Tinkering with clocks can't actually extend the length of the day, so it comes down to whether people prefer an extra hour of daylight in the morning, or in the evening. Personally, I'd much prefer the later. Hopefully, the UK will decide to stay permanently on summer time from 2021.
UK have objected and wants to keep daylight savings unfortunately
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#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not familiar with the Swiss referendum, but Brexit was a case of asking a lot of ill-informed people for their vote and then blindly doing what they said. I don't think that was the case here; the survey just informed policy, rather than dictate it.
You might at least say why you think your bald statement should carry weight. Plenty of intellectuals support Brexit. https://briefingsforbrexit.com/ . A lot of people understood Tony Benn's five questions about people in power. https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/tony-benn-dead-five-questions-powe... "What power have you got? "Where did you get it from? "In whose interests do you use it? "To whom are you accountable? "How do…
Bit ironic for a country who's head of state is still a monarch.
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#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
I say it's natural to wake up when the sun raises, you say it's natural to stick to the same hour all year long. I'm not forcing anything anymore than you do.
No one is forcing you to wake up at any particular time. If you want to wake up when the sun rises, you can do that. You don't need to control everyone's clock to do that.
Employers do force their employees to show up at a particular time.
Re: European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings
#225Someday US will get this too! Right after the metric system. Seriously speaking: I wish US gets rid of the clock change (one way or the other).
> right after the metric system
I think folks who want the US to be metric will have to go industry-by-industry.
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#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
> On what basis are Germany dominating the vote? "In the largest survey ever conducted by the European Commission, 80% of around 4.6 million respondents said they favor abolishing the finicky practice of changing the clocks in summer and winter" "While citizens from all EU member states voted in the poll, around two-thirds of responses came from Germany " https://qz.com/1375622/eu-citizens-voted-to-abolish-daylight..…
Reason being that people picked this up very quickly and for once this poll even made it into mass media before it was over . I think this only shows how much changing clocks annoys people; they hear about a poll, they go vote. AIUI in most other countries this initial pick-up and publicity just didn't happen.
> mass media
In which languages?
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
It actually costs in an entirely different way, when you screw with everybody's sleeping schedules, cause accidents with wildlife getting surprised by brisk changes in traffic peaks. Personally, I never dealt well with the change, either, so this means I have one less thing to worry about in pollinosis season. Good riddance.
Do you have any credible sources that say wildlife is affected in any way by daylight savings?
I don't have a source, but my understanding was that deer tend to learn when it's safe to cross the road. When all of a sudden people change their driving habits by an hour, deer start to get hit by cars that they didn't expect to be there.
Re: European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings
#228Whatever we do I hope it syncs with the US, because 9 AM SF/5 PM Dublin meetings are a LOT nicer than 8AM SF/5PM Dublin or 9 AM SF/6PM Dublin
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#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
No one is forcing you to wake up at any particular time. If you want to wake up when the sun rises, you can do that. You don't need to control everyone's clock to do that.
Employers do force their employees to show up at a particular time.
No, they don't force that at all. You're free to find another job with hours you prefer, or try to get your boss to let you work different hours. If all your coworkers don't like the hours, you have a better chance of getting the management to change the working hours. If you're the one weirdo who wants different hours, then maybe you shouldn't be trying to get everyone else to do things to your liking.
Re: European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings
#230Lets also try and spread working times from (mostly) 9-5 to 6-2, 7-3, 8-4, 9-5 and 10-6 so we can solve the traffic congestion problem, all while enabling people to work when they work best.
Or just improve cycling and public transport infrastructure, and let more people wfh