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European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings

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Re: European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings

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Unless you desire to get up at 4:30 in the morning, you're going to have to invest in some curtains either way. At that point, the exact time of sunrise doesn't really matter.

Alas, early sunshine wakes up some noisy birds, so curtains may not be the entire solution :(

Clearly, shifting the time by an hour keeps the birds asleep longer.

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Lets also try and spread working times from (mostly) 9-5 to 6-2, 7-3, 8-4, 9-5 and 10-6 so we can solve the traffic congestion problem, all while enabling people to work when they work best.

I would love this. But it seems what pegs everyone to the same schedule is uniform school hours for K-12.

Re: European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings

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Lets also try and spread working times from (mostly) 9-5 to 6-2, 7-3, 8-4, 9-5 and 10-6 so we can solve the traffic congestion problem, all while enabling people to work when they work best.

Don't forget spread the free weekend days randomly between companies.

Re: European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings

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So many people, including a lot of comments here, seem to think that it’s designed around the winter. It’s not, it’s to move an hour of sunlight from the start of the day (say, 4am) to the end of the day (say, 9pm) so that you use less energy in the summer (hence the ‘savings’), and then you can enjoy that rather than being asleep. Moving to summer time year-round means that the mornings in the winter will be darker.…

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Re: European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings

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post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you desire to get up at 4:30 in the morning, you're going to have to invest in some curtains either way. At that point, the exact time of sunrise doesn't really matter.

Alas, early sunshine wakes up some noisy birds, so curtains may not be the entire solution :(

That's OK, bird numbers have gone down significantly over the decades [0], they'll soon not be a problem.

[0] https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/advice/how-you-ca...

Re: European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings

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So just change the hours you work during the Winter! Why do you have to modify the actual clock that everyone else uses to do that?

That would be great but convincing School Boards of that would be a non-trivial task.

According to someone farther down in the comments here, India has no DST and simply starts school later in the winter. I guess that's just too hard for America?

Re: European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings

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post #183

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So just change the hours you work during the Winter! Why do you have to modify the actual clock that everyone else uses to do that?

That would be great but convincing School Boards of that would be a non-trivial task.

DST causes trauma for people with bipolar disorder, heart attacks go up, etc. Also, on a selfish note, it's irritating to program around.

DST is a legislative solution to the problem of getting everyone to change scheduling. So why not use legislation to get those school boards to change scheduling directly?

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So you do you- just don't force the complexity of your life on the rest of us. We can contribute a measurable number of deaths every year to DST. It's a disaster.

I say it's natural to wake up when the sun raises, you say it's natural to stick to the same hour all year long. I'm not forcing anything anymore than you do.

No one is forcing you to wake up at any particular time. If you want to wake up when the sun rises, you can do that. You don't need to control everyone's clock to do that.

Re: European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings

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I agree. I see why countries in northern Europe have little use for daylight savings: they have darkness in the morning in winter and sun well before everybody's awake in summer whenever they use daylight savings or not. In southern Europe it's different (I live there), especially because those countries tend to center their day not around noon but to later hours: lunch starting between 13:00/15:00 and dinner between…

> Spain basically lives with a double summer time. Spain uses the wrong timezone. It should use UTC instead of UTC+1. The map in the article shows that pretty clearly. That's at least partially the reason people have dinner so late in Spain. It's not them that are wrong it's the clock!

No, it's them, not the clock. The people of Spain are in control of their own clock; they're not a dictatorship any more. If they want a better timezone, it's in their power to make that change. If they're stupidly using the wrong timezone and eating meals at a late hour because of that, it's their own fault.

Re: European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings

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So many people, including a lot of comments here, seem to think that it’s designed around the winter. It’s not, it’s to move an hour of sunlight from the start of the day (say, 4am) to the end of the day (say, 9pm) so that you use less energy in the summer (hence the ‘savings’), and then you can enjoy that rather than being asleep. Moving to summer time year-round means that the mornings in the winter will be darker.…

> Moving to summer time year-round means that the mornings in the winter will be darker

The US is already on DST most of the year, so permanent DST is simply the minimum-change method of abandoning clock shifts.

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