Eventually Apple will make a disposable $3000 Mac and everyone will love it ...
Every laptop is disposable. You can't drop in a new motherboard from Fry's.
Apple’s 2018 MacBook Pros Attempt to Solve Flexgate, Without Admitting It Exists
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Re: Apple’s 2018 MacBook Pros Attempt to Solve Flexgate, Without Admitting It Exists
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Do you have an example of that action? Environmental problems start overwhelmingly at consumerism. Apple is releasing new devices every two years. These devices purposefully made to not be repaired, and apple certainly spends a lot of money into advertising. That's no different from other companies, but apple is lying about it.
The person you're responding is only commenting on their privacy stance. Not sure what repairing of devices has to do with that.
Ah Yep, I got mixed up. Hn doesn't thread well in large chats visually It seems.
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Same boat. I rationalized to myself when I bought it that this would be the laptop I stuck with for a decade. I didn't realize the reason I'd be doing that is because the current generations are just so bad. (Keyboard, touchbar, aggressive port diet, etc.) If someone were to steal this, I'd probably get a Thinkpad at this point. At least their keyboards don't suck, and I can get by with the half-decent touchpad. Mayb…
The little red nib is great once you get used to it. I was a Mac user for many years but I've become a convert to Thinkpads (running Linux, not Windows).
That's the impression I get. I have a company-issued Thinkpad (X270, love it) and I use it about 95% of the time on a dock with external screens and keyboard.
But whenever I use the builtin keyboard, I force myself to ignore the touchpad and use only the trackpoint. It's still weird and clumsy, but I am getting better at it.
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Why is Apple so resistant to making repairable products? What is the obsessiveness with making ever thinner products? I remember starting a job 2014 and choosing a macbook 2012, because of the macbook 2012 being more repairable. It seems to have served me well. Still using it, might consider upgrading to macbook 2015. But won't go beyond that before I hear from others that the current hardware issues have been resolv…
> What is the obsessiveness with making ever thinner products? Comparing a thicker and thinner version of the same product, the thicker ones always seem more old-fashioned. I still own my Titanium PowerBook, and when it was new it was so sleek I couldn’t believe it was real, and now it feels so thick and old I can barely believe how I used to feel about it.
Well, that’s because consumers have grown to associate thickness to age, precisely because vendors have put a lot of effort in reducing it.
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It's much more evident with USB 3.0. I can almost never use USB 3 drives on my laptop because they won't connect. Maybe 1/10 times it'll connect fully, but any touching the cable will disconnect it.
Are you talking about the USB-A connector, or the "micro b superspeed" connector https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/USB_3.0_... ? USB-A is this part of the cable: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/USB_Type...
GGP here - I was talking about the USB-A connector. I think the issue is the physical size of the connector - it catches on things, and when I use it in non-desk locations (couch, mostly), the larger protrusion from the main chassis of the laptop makes it more likely to move around. Over time, it makes the socket looser and looser.
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#176I have owned 3 Macbooks so far. And all 3 have had one of the speakers break. Am I just that unlucky? Oh and yeah, what a diarrhea of a keyboard in the 2016 edition.
And the late-2018 model with the third revision of that keyboard is still broken (I have keys that are starting to go after just two months of use).
Man.. your jaw would drop seeing mine...
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In all honesty, a battery is a wear and tear item. At some point it simply cannot provide enough power - it has been this way ever since rechargeable batteries was invented. What Apple did was the only thing they could do to keep the phone working reasonably, but they should have communicated it clearly, and offered battery replacement for a reasonable price (30$ for iPhone 6 battery replacement was cheap). Other man…
No. I don't buy this. The correct action would have been to overprovision the battery such that it is capable of advertised performance for the expected lifetime of the product instead of making the product 1 mm thinner.
Weight is important for a handheld device. 1mm thicker would add a significant chunk of weight.
The issue wasn't as much capacity, as it was peak power draw. While somewhat related to capacity, 10-20% larger battery would not have made much of a difference. They could have crippled the performance and lowering the peak power draw, but that was what they did when it was necessary.
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It makes you wonder how much of the privacy features are a marketing act too.
Not really. With recent articles talking about their push more deeply into health, privacy is a core feature and basis of trust. Very different than the marketing speak we get from other gigantic companies that are fundamentally ad brokers: privacy is at odds with their core business. Privacy is not at odds with where Apple is or is going, so there isn’t the business incentive there for them to violate it.
Their core business is propagating vendor lockin to tastefully designed highly-priced hardware of middling competence (but very good inter-operability). Privacy is something of a sauce. It's there, some people like it, but if you took it away I'm not convinced it wouldn't still sell. Their core audience by and large doesn't care about it at all.
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Careful on the mid-2012 MBPs... as much as I love that machine, they also have their own flexgate [1]. The internal SATA flex cables bend across the Superdrive and rub against the slightly abrasive back plate, so they have a high failure rate if you actually use your device as a laptop (eg travel with it, keep it in an backpack). Apple seems to have had a problem with flex cables for nearly a decade now. My MBP 2012…
Okay real talk do people just not take care of their machines or have my friends and I been insanely lucky? I use my computer daily and travel with it in a backpack all the time and have never once had anything on 5 Mac's I have owned (3 different work computers, 2 personal) break up until this year with the keyboard on the 2016/2017 MBP which in indeed a mess/huge fuckup. I still own both my personal Mac's and besid…
I mostly agree - I have a Pismo G3, 2006 Black MacBook & 2007 Black MacBook that are still in working order. The 2006 had one minor repair but has been fine ever since. I've been that guy who evangelized Mac reliability & AppleCare service to others.
I've been scratching my head trying to work out what I might be doing differently with my 2012 that others don't. The only thing I can think of (besides the backpack) is that I still make use of the internal DVD drive, and that I still have a spinning disk rather than an SSD (I need storage more than I need I/O speed). Perhaps the vibration from those devices causes some of the abrasion on the flex cables.
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#180The weirdest part of all of this is the recurrent problems of Apple products in peoples tech-life-time, and the same people, while annoyed, embrace it... and I just don't get it. If products fail on you consistently, why you keep buying them? It's 2019, there's a lot of great products out there, with way more quality than some Apple products. If the problem is the "ecosystem" you bought into, well maybe it was a mist…
Let's be clear about this: we have no idea how often this issue is occuring. From what we're seeing it could be 0.0001% of Apple Laptops failing within 3 years. This just tends to get a lot of attention. If you buy an Acer laptop it'll probably be 10x more likely to break in 3 years, but no one cares because the Acer brand is crap. This isn't surprising, the likelihood of breakdown is just 1 aspect of choosing to buy…
Well in the past years some of Apple products have had serious issues - like engineering flaws that made their products prone to issues.
So it's not just this issue.
About Acer, you'll have to back it up with something, because you know, Acer has laptops that range from 300€ to 1500€+.
But you're right, just because it's Apple these problems have a different reach in media, but on the other hand, Apple doesn't own their problems. And to top it off their practices when it comes to support some of the issues is just ridiculous.
To say windows is a total turd makes you look like you're just trying to hurt it's feelings, because you know, and I know, and everyone knows Windows serves it's purpose for plenty of people. Just like Android does.
If only the problems were in Apple laptops... the problems is in other product lines, and in the way Apple designs their products. Decisions like pinning down a laptop keyboard with rivets, poor choice of materials, poor thermals, the list goes on.
But hey, rejoice on it.