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Ask HN: How to create a service similar to Patreon?

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Re: Ask HN: How to create a service similar to Patreon?

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There is absolutely no shortcut in this things. As soon as you are paying users there will be all sort of legal requirements/side effects which you need to be aware of. Starting with money laundering, taxes (yours and from your users even!), pleasing your payout provider that your content is not illegal, beeing able to payout in US&Europe or even global and ending with costs (you will probably never be able to compet…

There is, read my last comment on this thread.

Re: Ask HN: How to create a service similar to Patreon?

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This is a really hard problem. You do not want to have to register as a bank or hire an expensive compliance team. Use Stripe.

Does Stripe actually allow this type of use though? Does it have to be special agreement / account with them or just a regular plain stripe account?

They literally have a product for this use case, it's called Stripe Connect.

Re: Ask HN: How to create a service similar to Patreon?

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If there’s a possibility to not handle the tax i would use that service in a heartbeat. The less i have to do the better.

Heh "Like Uber, but for tax accountants": attract tax experts from the creator's state/country to work for a percentage of their earnings. Does it get more complicated if the creator has donations from different states/countries? I have a feeling yes. Oh geez.

There used to be exactly this, called Teaspiller. It was acquired by TurboTax.

Re: Ask HN: How to create a service similar to Patreon?

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Exactly what streamlabs does is a thing I thought I might make some day -- now I can wipe it off my list since it seems like they are already producing a fantastic product. I really think that the streaming world could benefit from a decentralized streaming application but this seems like something streamlabs could easily pursue in a pivot or as a new feature so I think it could happen some day. Thanks for sharing ho…

Decentralization would require the streamer to have enough bandwidth to upload to each viewer. Uploading one stream to a CDN is ideal.

Right, except that decentralization is also the solution to fast data delivery -- CDNs work by decentralizing data, and if the people who built this were smart, they'd work in a way where users could get discounts for helping to spread/rehost paid streams (for a discount to their sub fee, for example), or choose to help a streamer out by replicating their stream for free.

I personally think you could find a lot of people who would be willing to help CDN/share/host for streamers they support, a nice step between watch for free and upvote/like and send the streamer money.

Even if you didn't want to go the P2P route, there's no reason that streamlabs can't step in to help provide that infrastructure if it's cost effective (i.e. if the streamer is paying) -- surely a streamer is going to be willing to drop $50 on extra resources for a stream if they think it's going to bring them >$50 worth of recognition/good content for their streamers. Streamlabs wouldn't even have to keep these resources on hand, they could spin them up on demand and just charge a slight premium. Even better, streamlabs could give streamers easy tools to enable purchasing cloud resources for better stream quality, and charge them for the convenience (and let them know of course that they pay the AWS bills at the end of the day).

Re: Ask HN: How to create a service similar to Patreon?

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post #65

There was a story on HN a while ago about Bootstrapping 10er, a Patreon-similar service for Danish creators https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18820196 It was a single person running it.

Oh wow, I had no idea failory did success interviews.. I've been assuming anything that's appeared there has shut down

Re: Ask HN: How to create a service similar to Patreon?

#69
There needs to be a Patreon alternative. I decided to contribute to a favourite author and found that I could register for an account, but logging on and paying people? Ha! I'm not a robot but I'm fscked if I'm going to battle through 19 Captchas (I gave up at 19). I even wrote to Patreon but not even the courtesy of a reply was forthcoming.

Sod'em

/rant

Re: Ask HN: How to create a service similar to Patreon?

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I’ve worked in the fintech space for 6 years this month. I’ve been a ceo/founder, vp of product, and managing partner. there’s no way to shortcut this, you’re going to need a chief compliance officer and to adhere to the right financial regulations, likely money transmission but possibly others as well. you need to contact a lawyer and get started BEFORE you process your first payment. i will warn you, starting down…

> this is a hard life for a solo entrepreneur and i do not recommend it wothout having raised a minimum of $2-5 million usd

Let's not get everyone in the mindset that venture capitalism in the US is a good thing. Many startups and entrepreneurs in Europe and other continents have found success without raising any capital.

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